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Old July 8th 03, 07:48 PM posted to uk.media.tv.misc,uk.tech.tv.sky
David Lees
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/s...es/3053540.stm

Is this a good use of DOGs? ITV1 had a scrolling message in the Brighton
region last night too. Are TV channels really local enough for this kind of
thing? Do people sitting at home really need to know that a child is
missing? I can understand how sending SMS messages and broadcasting on
local radio would help and the road side sign idea from America could work
but what am I meant to do while sitting at home?


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Old July 8th 03, 08:27 PM posted to uk.media.tv.misc,uk.tech.tv.sky
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David Lees writes
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/s...es/3053540.stm

Is this a good use of DOGs? ITV1 had a scrolling message in the Brighton
region last night too. Are TV channels really local enough for this kind of
thing? Do people sitting at home really need to know that a child is
missing? I can understand how sending SMS messages and broadcasting on
local radio would help and the road side sign idea from America could work
but what am I meant to do while sitting at home?


You have a look at all the beds and cots in your house in case a small
child is asleep under one.

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Old July 8th 03, 09:21 PM posted to uk.media.tv.misc,uk.tech.tv.sky
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"David Lees" wrote in message
...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/s...es/3053540.stm

Is this a good use of DOGs? ITV1 had a scrolling message in the Brighton
region last night too. Are TV channels really local enough for this kind

of
thing? Do people sitting at home really need to know that a child is
missing? I can understand how sending SMS messages and broadcasting on
local radio would help and the road side sign idea from America could work
but what am I meant to do while sitting at home?



I don't really see the point of TV banners for this, despite the kid being
found sleeping upstairs. The police were going on the presumption that there
had been an abduction, so radio makes more sense since people are more
likely to be out in the car.

SMS seems a bit dubious. I'm waiting for a case of someone reading an
emergency SMS while driving and then mowing down a child while looking at
it.

- Steve


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Old July 8th 03, 09:35 PM posted to uk.media.tv.misc,uk.tech.tv.sky
Dave
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Dom Robinson writes
You have a look at all the beds and cots in your house in case a small
child is asleep under one.

And also onscreen:

Will she be found alive or dead?
Text POLL ALIVE to 8183, or
Text POLL DEAD to 8183

Texts cost 25p plus yr std txt msg r8. All proceeds go to Greg Dyke's
pension fund and press red if you'd like to see more such obliterations
like this onscreen when you're trying to watch a ****ing TV programme.


Thing is, it's one intrusion that you're not allowed to object to. It's
all for the sake of the children you see.

If you're against these screen pop-ups then you must be some kind of
pee-doh-file who likes to kill little kiddies. And then eat them.

*sigh*

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Old July 8th 03, 10:23 PM posted to uk.media.tv.misc,uk.tech.tv.sky
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In article ,
[email protected] says...
SMS seems a bit dubious. I'm waiting for a case of someone reading an
emergency SMS while driving and then mowing down a child while looking at
it.


Or the police doing checks on those people who've opted to have alerts sent to
them about abducted children. Why would anyone want such txts? Are they going
to suddenly go out and look for them? The only people who'd care, quite
frankly, would be friends and relatives of the missing child.
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Old July 8th 03, 10:27 PM posted to uk.media.tv.misc,uk.tech.tv.sky
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In article , [email protected]
8.demon.co.uk says...
Dom Robinson writes
You have a look at all the beds and cots in your house in case a small
child is asleep under one.

And also onscreen:

Will she be found alive or dead?
Text POLL ALIVE to 8183, or
Text POLL DEAD to 8183

Texts cost 25p plus yr std txt msg r8. All proceeds go to Greg Dyke's
pension fund and press red if you'd like to see more such obliterations
like this onscreen when you're trying to watch a ****ing TV programme.


Thing is, it's one intrusion that you're not allowed to object to. It's
all for the sake of the children you see.


I was just thinking about that. Anyone who complained would get a reply: "You
heartless *******"

If you're against these screen pop-ups then you must be some kind of
pee-doh-file who likes to kill little kiddies. And then eat them.


Except those who signed up for the txt alerts.
"TXT: CHILD LAST SEEN ON HIGH STREET"
They'd be round there like a shot.
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Old July 9th 03, 06:21 AM posted to uk.media.tv.misc,uk.tech.tv.sky
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"Dom Robinson" wrote in message
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I was just thinking about that. Anyone who complained would get a reply: "You
heartless *******"

Wel hang on a minute guys, just how much an intrusion into your
precious viewing time *was* this?
I believe that such a system would only be used once or twice a year
in any particular area. The system is a US import that has apparently
worked very well over there.
I wouldn't say we should flood the airwaves at the drop of a hat, strict
criterial must be met; but try to take a balanced view and not be so selfish.

Col
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Old July 9th 03, 08:21 AM posted to uk.media.tv.misc,uk.tech.tv.sky
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David Lees wrote:
:: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/s...es/3053540.stm
::
:: Is this a good use of DOGs? ITV1 had a scrolling message in the
:: Brighton region last night too. Are TV channels really local enough
:: for this kind of thing? Do people sitting at home really need to
:: know that a child is missing? I can understand how sending SMS
:: messages and broadcasting on local radio would help and the road
:: side sign idea from America could work but what am I meant to do
:: while sitting at home?


Hmm..."Ceefax page 172", so no use on digital then, and I doubt they'd
bother (a) not to flash it up on digital and/or (b) have a page on BBCi as
well.

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Old July 9th 03, 09:03 AM posted to uk.media.tv.misc,uk.tech.tv.sky
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In article ,
says...

"Dom Robinson" wrote in message
...

I was just thinking about that. Anyone who complained would get a reply: "You
heartless *******"

Wel hang on a minute guys, just how much an intrusion into your
precious viewing time *was* this?
I believe that such a system would only be used once or twice a year
in any particular area. The system is a US import that has apparently
worked very well over there.
I wouldn't say we should flood the airwaves at the drop of a hat, strict
criterial must be met; but try to take a balanced view and not be so selfish.

But people will be selfish about it. I'm only bothered about my viewing
because I'm the one watching it.

Any relatives of the missing kid will already know, and the majority of the
rest of the population won't care. The same information will be put on the
news anyway, and that's not going to make people behave any differently so
what is a child alert meant to do?

Some people will go "Oh, that's terrible", while others won't be bothered, and
then they'll all forget about it the second it's gone from the screen. Kids go
missing all the time, but only one or two every so often actually get
mentioned in the news where they think they've got a story. I said at the time
that after Sarah Payne, when it came to the Soham story the papers would be
creaming their pants at the thought of "2 for the price of 1", quite frankly.
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Old July 9th 03, 11:47 AM posted to uk.media.tv.misc,uk.tech.tv.sky
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I do not think this is a "good DOG".

Every 30 minutes of BBC Air time has 3 minutes of advertising time built in.
If PSBs want to provide this public service, they have these slots BETWEEN
programmes to provide this public good information.

NOT during programmes.

We are also equally served by news bulletins. You can get news at 17:30,
18:00, 19:00, 19:30, 20:55, 21:00, 22:00, and News at When and this is just
on channels 1 to 5.



However, the negative side of this scheme, is that petty people will fake
dis-appearances to get their name on TV.

Bart Simpson style, we may have Mr Strap, Mr Jock Strap, or Ms Frequenty, Ms
I.P. Frquently allegedly go missing.



It would be far more effective for a Police car with "loud hailers" to
cruise the local streets announcing the problem, which of course would reach
non-TV viewers too.

cynicism
Mind you, seeing a pig on the street other than in the context of harrassing
motorists for minor infractions of velocity is not something Sussex Police
specialise in. The only time I've ever seen a pig in Sussex is behind a
speed trap. As far as I am concerned, the buggers take 500 a year off me in
taxes, merely to provide speed traps, gatso cameras, Policing of kicking out
time and to beat up animal rights protestors.
/cynicism




Most GSM cellphones are equipped with a function called "Area Information /
Cell Broadcast".

On Vodafone Cell Broadcast channel 50 tells you your location STD code.
On Cellnet Cell Broadcast channel 200 tells you your location STD code.

(Standard Trunk Dialling - not sexually transmitted disease).

However, this type of system is probably too geeky for mass use.

Mass SMS broadcast in a cell is possible, but the Operators will want to be
paid for it.








 




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