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Old March 31st 18, 03:44 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Andy Burns wrote:

John wrote:

London has had its channels in Group A for years and years, there
must be a very good reason for shoving them outside of Group A

Most of the rest of the country has suffered this several times in the
last few years. London was spared until now due to the number of people
served by Crystal Palace, but now it's time for the pips to squeak ...

The obvious thing would be to remove the existing Group A aerial and
replace it with a Group W one. However, I worry about its lesser
sensitivity at the Group A end.


Unless you were marginal for analogue, I'd expect digital has plenty of
headroom on the low end.

I wonder why it was not technically possible to leave those muxes where
they were?


The Mobile networks' insatiable demand for bandwidth.


Nothing to do with auctioning off the space?
Perish the thought.

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Old March 31st 18, 03:49 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Pinnerite wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

The Mobile networks' insatiable demand for bandwidth.


Nothing to do with auctioning off the space?
Perish the thought.


You envisage anyone other than phone networks bidding?


  #33  
Old March 31st 18, 05:07 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Well, I guess it depends very much on the distance, as I recall that an
aerial near the coast aimed at the Isle of Wight used to suffer from a kind
of fading up and down as the tide moved.
I can only suspect that at the location, not far from Seaford I think,
there was sufficient pick up from reflection on the water to start multipath
issues. Long time ago now.


Brian

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On 31/03/2018 10:12, Brian Gaff wrote:

However I'm surprised at that
height that you get no signal at all.

Once the the aerial is high enough to have line-of-sight further height
will not increase the signal strength received. It could even reduce it...

Bill



  #34  
Old March 31st 18, 05:09 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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They really have made a complete mess of things, when you look at it.
I mean all we need now is some bright spark to spot how unused the military
air band is and we will have yet another non standard frequency for
something. Sod the armed forces, let they use android phones.
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On 30/03/2018 14:36, John wrote:
Especially annoying was the loss of BBC News HD and BBC Four HD.


The latter maybe, but surely not the former ?, especially now that
that female who threw a hissy fit and left, and has grudgingly
come back on a much higher unjustified salary, seems to be a
regular face.

And down here in the hollows of sussex, we have never had
BBC4 in HD from Midhurst. Will we ever ?.



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Old March 31st 18, 05:11 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Being called Clickshould it not be on bbc3 online?
That is the normal logic of the BBC. I had the misfortune to attempt to
view bbc 3 the other day, infantile crap.
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On 31/03/2018 10:45, Andrew wrote:
On 30/03/2018 14:36, John wrote:
Especially annoying was the loss of BBC News HD and BBC Four HD.


The latter maybe, but surely not the former ?


BBC News HD is useful for Click, when it isn't cancelled or truncated to
make way for (supposedly) "breaking news".

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Old March 31st 18, 05:13 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On the other hand there are injustices on many jobs between men and women,
so really I see no issue with this. Perhaps they all get too much to start
with?
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On 31/03/2018 10:45, Andrew wrote:
On 30/03/2018 14:36, John wrote:
Especially annoying was the loss of BBC News HD and BBC Four HD.


The latter maybe, but surely not the former ?, especially now that
that female who threw a hissy fit and left, and has grudgingly
come back on a much higher unjustified salary, seems to be a
regular face.


"Golden girl six-figure auto-cue Carrie Gracie was reading the news
yesterday:

'Unjustifiably high salaries paid by some academies'.

Oh dear me. It gets better:

'MPs on the Public Accounts Committee (PAC) highlighted how 102 academy
trusts paid some senior staff over 150,000 a year. And in two-thirds of
cases where the government had challenged this, it had not been satisfied
with the response'

Ouch.

'PAC said: "Unjustifiably high salaries use public money that could be
better spent.."

Luckily our Carrie, apparently, has no shame."

Bill



  #37  
Old March 31st 18, 05:15 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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No I don't see that at all in this case its too many bloody cooks involved
with the supply of the national broadcaster, including commercial entities
who want just to make dosh out of it all.
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On 31/03/2018 10:48, Andrew wrote:

because the people who watch CBBC and don't pay a license fee are
more highly regarded by the BBC than the people who watch BBC4
(and if not over 75, do pay a license fee tax).


There's more to it than that. As Francis Xavier said, "Give me a child
until he is seven and I will give you the man." The BBC is intent on
brainwashing our children into accepting multiculturalism and their other
leftist/liberal values as the norm.

Bill



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Old March 31st 18, 11:21 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 31/03/2018 17:11, Brian Gaff wrote:
Being called Clickshould it not be on bbc3 online?
That is the normal logic of the BBC. I had the misfortune to attempt to
view bbc 3 the other day, infantile crap.
Brian

It always was. Obviously an attempt to educate teenagers. I'm very glad
it's no longer on air.
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Old April 1st 18, 01:11 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 31/03/2018 23:21, Dave W wrote:
On 31/03/2018 17:11, Brian Gaff wrote:
Being called Clickshould it not be on bbc3 online?
* That is the normal logic of the BBC. I had the misfortune to attempt to
view bbc 3 the other day, infantile crap.
* Brian

It always was. Obviously an attempt to educate teenagers. I'm very glad
it's no longer on air.


Educate? Brainwash!

Bill
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Old April 1st 18, 11:39 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 31/03/2018 11:42, Dave W wrote:
On 31/03/2018 01:11, Bill Wright wrote:
On 31/03/2018 00:33, Dave W wrote:
On 30/03/2018 23:13, Andy Burns wrote:
Dave W wrote:

I don't know why they couldn't have put the new
phone allocation at the top of the UHF band instead of the middle

Channels 61 to 69 a the top end have already been given over to 4G,
now they're coming back for a second bite for 5G from 49 to 60, TV
has to be squeezed in 21 to 48.

Does that mean that channels 55 & 56 are only temporary, and when we
have to tune lower down maybe a group 'A' aerial will work again?


They are temporary until after the next but one election, at which
point terrestrial broadcasting will be reduced to one mux carrying the
five basic channels on a national SFN.
Objectors will be hushed and told that since 'everyone' has fast
internet and/or satellite they should use that. Their comments will
not be reported by the mainstream media. Since from 2020 onwards all
internet messages will be scrutinised for hate speech by a robot
sensor the only available medium will be the walls of public
lavatories, the graffitists wearing a balaclava and Corbyn mask.
Dissent about the effective end of terrestrial broadcasting will be
classed as hate speech (Public Order Act 2022) and anyone speaking out
of place will be locked up.

Bill


Very funny, but public lavatories were the first facilities to have been
removed.


We still have them on Worthing Seafront.
 




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