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Old February 28th 18, 07:38 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 28/02/2018 00:31, Davey wrote:
On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 22:56:20 +0000
tony wrote:

24 hours before the event one was told to consume some Fleet mix. This
cleans the pipes of the brown stuff and it sure does what it sez on
the tin!..


My first two colonoscopies were done in the USA. For the first one, I
was given the jug of stuff, and it said that soon after starting to
take it, it would make me want to go to the toilet. The instructions
basically said;
"Go to the toilet. Do not stop on the way, do not pass 'Go', do not
collect $200. Just go to the bathroom without stopping".

It was very good advice, that stuff worked.

Some years ago I found a thread in a newsgroup, and I couldn't decide
whether it was factual or a joke. It was entertaining though, so I took
a copy. Enjoy!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cgd577h5l1...colax.txt?dl=0

Jim

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Old February 28th 18, 07:55 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 27/02/2018 11:51, Jim Lesurf wrote:

The *symptoms* I've had for about two *decades*. Episodic, but tended to
get worse each time they recur. I've seen more than one GP about it on a
number of occasions but always got "standard response No 1". i.e.

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Anyway, I'm hoping that - from weather to examination - things go well on
Friday.


Worrying times Jim. Let's hope you're OK. Your story about the GP's
behaviour is dreadful.
I was in hospital yesterday and was closeted for five hours with another
patient. His story was that twenty years ago when he was 18 he had an
accident and lost most of his penis (but not his scrotum). He has now
been offered a new procedure that I think he said involved using bowel
tissue to build a new penis. He was there yesterday as part of the
recovery from the first stage, which is tissue harvesting.
Having had the catheter removed I had to demonstrate that I could empty
my bladder fully. This took many attempts over the course of the day.
At home I had a bite to eat but was exhausted due to stress and pain so
I slept for two hours. Woke and ****ed under control, slept for another
two hours, ****ed ditto but felt really ill with tiredness. Slept for
another two hours, woke up soaked. Slept for three more periods; each
time woke up in time.
I can't speak highly enough of the staff in Urology. Their kindness
helped enormously in getting me through a difficult process. There were
two nurses, both specialists, one Filipino and one Polish. The
experitise of these girls is astonishing. Their compassion is palpable.

Bill
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Old February 28th 18, 08:12 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 27/02/2018 17:19, critcher wrote:


I have no doubt you have the character and resolution to see this thing
through, best of everything for the future.


Yes, now I'm a bit stronger I'm getting my old belligerent way back. I'm
shouting at the telly again, which Hil says is a good sign.

Bill
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Old February 28th 18, 08:16 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 27/02/2018 22:56, tony sayer wrote:

24 hours before the event one was told to consume some Fleet mix. This
cleans the pipes of the brown stuff and it sure does what it sez on the
tin!..

Come the day 8 AM start small prick on the arm start counting backwards
like you do.


I had the camera up the arse job without a GA and it was excruciating.

Bill
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Old February 28th 18, 08:25 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 28/02/2018 00:31, Davey wrote:

It was very good advice, that stuff worked.


The GA for my operation had me out for six hours and my guts stopped
working. They wouldn't start again. The hosp had me munching laxitives,
but no luck. Eight days later it's getting serious so a suppository was
inserted. 14 minutes later my bowel spasmed and expelled a hard dry
object that damaged the sphincter. Much blood. During the next two and a
quarter hours I opened my bowels on 20 separate occasions. Each time the
pain was excruciating, with me screaming blue murder. It was a nightmare.

Bill
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Old February 28th 18, 08:34 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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In article , tony sayer

wrote:

I wonder if our Jim is talking about a suspected bowel cancer perhaps?.


That was the original concern of the GP, and my wife and I. However this
didn't fit very well with the symptoms having appeared in episodes for
*decades*. My wife was very worried by this and said more than once that if
I died she would commit suicide, and might if she felt I was in hospital
and would die there. Because of her condition she gets confused and
over-anxious very easily.

The specialist's diagnosis was 'prolapse'. Apparently I am 'unusual'
because most people who get this are female.

Having read the notes I gave her (female specialist) she checked a few
points then asked another question about a symptom I had *not* at that
point mentioned because I'd only noticed it recently. I said, yes, I'd
noticed that recently. This chimed with the diagnosis. Hence after
*decades* of no diagnosis by my GPs, the specialist came say this after
about ten minutes of consideration. She then gave me a brief 'finger'
examination which didn't change this. But we need a scan to know more.

In terms of science, the first requirement is that a theory should match
the known evidence. Having it then match 'new' (to her) evidence is a
promising indicator.

The next step - hopefully on Friday, weather allowing! - is a fuller
examination (ultrasound). This is to check and see if there are any signs
of something more serious lurking. Until than cancer or something else
remains possible. But not directly indicated by the symptom history. The
prolapse would fit there.

The snags are that:

I need the above examination to know more, thus need to get though the
weather, etc, for it. My wife is quite unwell at the moment. She can't do
very much, which of course means I remain on 'all duties'. This makes even
attending for the Friday morning difficult. And is a real worry if I need
to go in for days should an operation be required, which may then leave me
unable to take care of her then or in the following days.

So I am *really* hoping that the diagnosis remains no more than prolapse,
and that a regime of suitable diet, exercise, and behaviour will bring it
under control, etc.

One of the reasons I was unwilling to take the GP's recommened colonoscopy
is that they insisted on two days beforehand of a 'no fibre' diet. Which I
knew full well would make my symptoms far worse. To the point that I would
of no use for my wife, and might then feel so ill that I could not get to
the hospital 20 miles away for the actual colonoscopy. But so far as the GP
was concerned there was zero flexibility.

Jim

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Old February 28th 18, 09:03 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 22:56:20 +0000, tony sayer
wrote:

[...]
24 hours before the event one was told to consume some Fleet mix. This
cleans the pipes of the brown stuff and it sure does what it sez on the
tin!..

[...]

BTDT, some time ago but that part of the procedure is something you
never forget. Read the fine print very carefully because as you say it
really really does what it's supposed to. I wouldn't give that stuff
to my worst enemy, even as a joke.

Rod.
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Old February 28th 18, 12:10 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Wed, 28 Feb 2018 09:16:17 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

I had the camera up the arse job without a GA and it was excruciating.


I had it with intravenous sedation, was awake the whole time (no pun
intended) and didn't feel a thing. Just watched the perfectly clear pink
tube movie!

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Old February 28th 18, 12:10 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 28/02/2018 09:34, Jim Lesurf wrote:

The next step - hopefully on Friday, weather allowing! - is a fuller
examination (ultrasound). This is to check and see if there are any signs
of something more serious lurking. Until than cancer or something else
remains possible. But not directly indicated by the symptom history. The
prolapse would fit there.

The snags are that:

I need the above examination to know more, thus need to get though the
weather, etc, for it. My wife is quite unwell at the moment. She can't do
very much, which of course means I remain on 'all duties'. This makes even
attending for the Friday morning difficult. And is a real worry if I need
to go in for days should an operation be required, which may then leave me
unable to take care of her then or in the following days.

So I am *really* hoping that the diagnosis remains no more than prolapse,
and that a regime of suitable diet, exercise, and behaviour will bring it
under control, etc.

One of the reasons I was unwilling to take the GP's recommened colonoscopy
is that they insisted on two days beforehand of a 'no fibre' diet. Which I
knew full well would make my symptoms far worse. To the point that I would
of no use for my wife, and might then feel so ill that I could not get to
the hospital 20 miles away for the actual colonoscopy. But so far as the GP
was concerned there was zero flexibility.

Jim


Jim, something we learnt early is that you have to throw money and
resources at disability. The resources might be those of others. Does
you local council have an emergency help scheme? Here it is called
STEPS. They will come in and provide support if you're in a fix. Have
you spoken to the district nursing service, social services, etc. TH GP
practice can be an entry to the various agencies. Otherwise, you could
use a paid-for agency nurse. Or what about respite care for your wife
while you're in hospital? This is offered by some councils and hospices.
You really do need to explore all possibilities.

Bill
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Old February 28th 18, 02:29 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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Jim, something we learnt early is that you have to throw money and
resources at disability. The resources might be those of others. Does you
local council have an emergency help scheme? Here it is called STEPS. They
will come in and provide support if you're in a fix. Have you spoken to
the district nursing service, social services, etc. TH GP practice can be
an entry to the various agencies. Otherwise, you could use a paid-for
agency nurse. Or what about respite care for your wife while you're in
hospital? This is offered by some councils and hospices. You really do
need to explore all possibilities.


My best wishes do, of course, go to Bill and Jim and Martin.
I am rather elderly and, at the age of 71 I was diagnosed with Idiopathic
Pulmonary Fibrosis. The mean survival is 3 years. But the diagnosis was 9
years ago and I am still in this world and, at the age of 80 I am rather
fragile but still comfortable.
Over the past few years I have been helped enormously by my G.P., my
Hospital Consultant and all the staff at the Hospital Chest Clinic, my
Community Matron and my local Hospice. It has been made clear to me that
further help will be available if at any time I need to become totally
reliant on others. I hope that Jim can get the same level of assistance
which has been given to me and I would very much recommend that (if he has
not already done so) that he contact his local Hospice to ask if his wife
can be looked after if he has to be admitted to hospital.
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