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uk.tech.digital-tv (Digital TV - General) (uk.tech.digital-tv) Discussion of all matters technical in origin related to the reception of digital television transmissions, be they via satellite, terrestrial or cable. Advertising is forbidden, with no exceptions. |
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![]() "Graham." wrote in message ... On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 12:58:47 +0000, Bill Wright coalesced the vapors of human experience into a viable and meaningful comprehension... On 07/01/2018 08:45, tim... wrote: wrote in message ... On Saturday, 6 January 2018 19:34:15 UTC, tim... wrote: If you move into an apartment quite often they come with a no satellite rule With so many people using Sky, any half-decent apartment block will have satellite feeds (at least one, anyway) by now. You'd think so, wouldn't you But just starting my search for a new flat in London it's surprising how many have this rule - the reply is "if you want the football you can subscribe to Virgin Cable". That would be a big no-no here. I can't think of a single medium market/up market new build we've been involved in for years that hasn't had satellite. Ten years ago one of the biggest national housing assns built a new budget market 50-dwelling block in the town centre. The cable company conned them with an offer of a free system. Take-up of pay TV was extremely low. Half a dozen flats had 'no signal' faults and the cable co wanted £300 to fix each one. The wrangle went on for two years with us being asked to install 'temporary' dishes all of which looked like arses. In the end we installed a new two-feed system at a cost of £130 per dwelling. There are some older complexes that don't have satellite distribution, usually because the residents' assn can't agree on it. In those cases dishes are allowed. Where dishes have been banned people have moved out. Internet good enough for reliable TV is not universal, even in the cities. And if you are looking for a flat in a wardened retirement block, the reply to "is there a satellite connection" is "why on earth would you want that?" I'm amazed. I can't speak for every single company, but the large majority here of sheltered accommodation ('independent living') has been converted for two-feed satellite. This isn't the case for 'very sheltered' or 'nursing care' though, where satellite provision is almost unheard of. Bill I wonder if he would have got a different answer if he had said "Sky" instead of "satellite". Perhaps "a satellite connection" has come to mean (in our teams) something other than 28.2E, such as the average Polish family might expect? you have to get a second dish for that the place that I most recently rented was originally taken by a polish couple but they backed out when the managing agents refused their request for a dish on the roof so that they could have Polish TV tim -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
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![]() "Max Demian" wrote in message o.uk... On 07/01/2018 12:44, Terry Casey wrote: In article , says... I'd say that all that stems from the days when Sky dishes were huge and white - a real carbuncle on your south-facing wall. The coming of Sky Digital with its smaller, less obstrusive, black-painted, mesh-constructed, dish changed all that. So, if you pass a south facing multi-storey block of flats with one of those smaller dishes outside virtually every window, you don't think it is obtrusive? Only if you /want/ to think it's "intrusive" - whatever that means. having a dish outside of every window instead of a properly installed communal system Is intrusive tim |
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On 07/01/2018 12:44, Terry Casey wrote:
In article , says... I'd say that all that stems from the days when Sky dishes were huge and white - a real carbuncle on your south-facing wall. The coming of Sky Digital with its smaller, less obstrusive, black-painted, mesh-constructed, dish changed all that. So, if you pass a south facing multi-storey block of flats with one of those smaller dishes outside virtually every window, you don't think it is obtrusive? Compared to a multi-storey block of flats? |
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On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 18:22:15 +0000, Bill Wright
coalesced the vapors of human experience into a viable and meaningful comprehension... https://www.property118.com/human-ri...tenants/17313/ Bill “Satellite dishes are a popular tool for receiving multiple services via satellite. They facilitate mutual exchanges between our various cultures by overcoming national borders, and familiarise the public with remote communications technologies. Their use must therefore be free from any unjustified obstacle.” That deserves a musical overdub. Freude, schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Wir betreten feuertrunken, Himmlische, dein Heiligtum! Deine Zauber binden wieder Was die Mode streng geteilt*; Alle Menschen werden Brüder* Wo dein sanfter Flügel weilt. -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
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On 07/01/2018 20:22, tim... wrote:
"Max Demian" wrote in message o.uk... On 07/01/2018 12:44, Terry Casey wrote: In article , says... I'd say that all that stems from the days when Sky dishes were huge and white - a real carbuncle on your south-facing wall. The coming of Sky Digital with its smaller, less obstrusive, black-painted, mesh-constructed, dish changed all that. So, if you pass a south facing multi-storey block of flats withÂ* one of those smaller dishes outside virtually every window, you don't think it is obtrusive? Only if you /want/ to think it's "intrusive" - whatever that means. having a dish outside of every window instead of a properly installed communal system Is intrusive Someone has to organise the installation and maintenance of a communal system, and deal with problems of people misusing it or not understanding how to use it. There may also be people who don't want to pay for it as they don't want satellite. -- Max Demian |
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![]() "Max Demian" wrote in message o.uk... On 07/01/2018 20:22, tim... wrote: "Max Demian" wrote in message o.uk... On 07/01/2018 12:44, Terry Casey wrote: In article , says... I'd say that all that stems from the days when Sky dishes were huge and white - a real carbuncle on your south-facing wall. The coming of Sky Digital with its smaller, less obstrusive, black-painted, mesh-constructed, dish changed all that. So, if you pass a south facing multi-storey block of flats with one of those smaller dishes outside virtually every window, you don't think it is obtrusive? Only if you /want/ to think it's "intrusive" - whatever that means. having a dish outside of every window instead of a properly installed communal system Is intrusive Someone has to organise the installation and maintenance of a communal oh of course It's called the property management committee system, and deal with problems of people misusing it or not how do you misuse a satellite outlet in your room? understanding how to use it. People find out for themselves just like when they move into a new house they have to find out how to use the sockets with three rectulanglar holes arranged in a funny pattern and the other type of co-ax plug that doesn't have a screw fitting and the small rectangular sockets with the shuttering and don't get me started on properties with wired audio systems. Sis has just moved into one of these. Can anyone in the block tell her how to use it. No of course they can't, she pays a man to come in and tell her or she decides not to bother. There may also be people who don't want to pay for it as they don't want satellite. Well this is the problem that I think I already highlighted. If the block is large enough it can be cost effective to install a system paid for just by those who do want it, with the preparation and expansion capacity for adding other units as they are prepared to pay. tim |
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On 09/01/2018 19:46, Terry Casey wrote:
A bit like a tower block laid on its side, If you laid a tower block on its side it would drive the residents up the wall. Bill |
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On 09/01/2018 19:46, Terry Casey wrote:
In article , says... On 07/01/2018 12:44, Terry Casey wrote: In article , says... I'd say that all that stems from the days when Sky dishes were huge and white - a real carbuncle on your south-facing wall. The coming of Sky Digital with its smaller, less obstrusive, black-painted, mesh-constructed, dish changed all that. So, if you pass a south facing multi-storey block of flats with one of those smaller dishes outside virtually every window, you don't think it is obtrusive? Compared to a multi-storey block of flats? I wasn't meaning tower blocks here, but low level multi-storey - perhaps four - with flats on every floor and extending along a road for some distance. A bit like a tower block laid on its side, as it were, but not as visually intrusive (without the dishes). With or without the washing lines? And the multi-colour painted parapets? |
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