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Old February 19th 15, 09:38 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Mon, 09 Feb 2015 19:11:04 +0000
Bill Wright wrote:

"...at a pressure of £40,000 per square inch."

Bill


There was a good one during the BBC News last week:

Spoken: Culture (as in modern, etc).
Subtitle: Yoghurt.

You can see the thinking......

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Old February 19th 15, 11:53 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 10:38:46 +0000, Davey wrote:

On Mon, 09 Feb 2015 19:11:04 +0000 Bill Wright wrote:

"...at a pressure of £40,000 per square inch."

Bill


There was a good one during the BBC News last week:

Spoken: Culture (as in modern, etc).
Subtitle: Yoghurt.

You can see the thinking......


I have seen a man signing whilst standing in front of the picture, he
completely missed the blank panel on the right hand side.
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Old February 19th 15, 01:14 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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I watched a film the other night, it was about a kidnapping in New
Zealand. It was very good by the way, nice steady camera work, no
gimmicks, clear dialogue, very believable acting. But the subtitles
seemed to be from a different version of the script. The meaning was
often much the same but the actual words were different. Do they ever do
the subtitles from a script that the actors might not follow exactly?

Bill
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Old February 19th 15, 02:06 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 14:14:55 +0000
Bill Wright wrote:


I watched a film the other night, it was about a kidnapping in New
Zealand. It was very good by the way, nice steady camera work, no
gimmicks, clear dialogue, very believable acting. But the subtitles
seemed to be from a different version of the script. The meaning was
often much the same but the actual words were different. Do they ever
do the subtitles from a script that the actors might not follow
exactly?

Bill


That happens every evening when the BBC News gives us the Look East
trailer, but shows the subtitles for BBC London/SE. Quite frustrating,
sometimes, seeing what we're missing.

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Old February 20th 15, 10:54 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 10:21:35 +0000
Martin wrote:

The Dutch who used to write the subtitles for the Benny Hill Show,
when it was shown on Dutch TV, used to write their own jokes.
Sometimes their jokes were better than the originals.


Not difficult, in my view. The only joke I appreciated in Benny Hill
was when he was dodging bullets in a garden gnome factory, and the
gnomes were all being destroyed.
Americans used to think that all Brits loved him.

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Old February 20th 15, 02:01 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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wrote in message ...
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 10:38:46 +0000, Davey wrote:

On Mon, 09 Feb 2015 19:11:04 +0000 Bill Wright wrote:

"...at a pressure of £40,000 per square inch."

Bill


There was a good one during the BBC News last week:

Spoken: Culture (as in modern, etc).
Subtitle: Yoghurt.

You can see the thinking......


I have seen a man signing whilst standing in front of the picture, he
completely missed the blank panel on the right hand side.


the worse thing about wavey-hand-man is when he splats over the in-band subs
for foreign dialogue translations (usually in documentaries, I doubt that
there are many foreign films that make it to the "sign zone")

Thanks for nothing BBC!

tim





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Old February 20th 15, 02:17 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"tim....." wrote in message
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wrote in message ...
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 10:38:46 +0000, Davey wrote:

On Mon, 09 Feb 2015 19:11:04 +0000 Bill Wright wrote:

"...at a pressure of £40,000 per square inch."

Bill

There was a good one during the BBC News last week:

Spoken: Culture (as in modern, etc).
Subtitle: Yoghurt.

You can see the thinking......


I have seen a man signing whilst standing in front of the picture, he
completely missed the blank panel on the right hand side.


Why can't broadcasters shrink the picture, creating a black border in the
bottom right hand corner, and then make sure that the signer remains totally
and forever in that black border so he never encroaches on the picture? And
put the subtitles over the top of the signer (or keep them only within the
programme area). Surely that can't difficult to achieve.

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Old February 20th 15, 02:53 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"NY" wrote in message
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Why can't broadcasters shrink the picture, creating a black border in the bottom
right hand corner, and then make sure that the signer remains totally and
forever in that black border so he never encroaches on the picture? And put the
subtitles over the top of the signer (or keep them only within the programme
area). Surely that can't difficult to achieve.


Why can't they have the signer just disappear by pressing the green button?

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Old February 20th 15, 03:03 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"NY" wrote in message
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"tim....." wrote in message
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wrote in message ...
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 10:38:46 +0000, Davey wrote:

On Mon, 09 Feb 2015 19:11:04 +0000 Bill Wright
wrote:

"...at a pressure of £40,000 per square inch."

Bill

There was a good one during the BBC News last week:

Spoken: Culture (as in modern, etc).
Subtitle: Yoghurt.

You can see the thinking......

I have seen a man signing whilst standing in front of the picture, he
completely missed the blank panel on the right hand side.


Why can't broadcasters shrink the picture, creating a black border in the
bottom right hand corner, and then make sure that the signer remains
totally and forever in that black border so he never encroaches on the
picture? And put the subtitles over the top of the signer (or keep them
only within the programme area). Surely that can't difficult to achieve.


One (or more) of the channels does that

Others put him on top of the picture

tim


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Old February 20th 15, 03:04 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Norman Wells" wrote in message
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"NY" wrote in message
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Why can't broadcasters shrink the picture, creating a black border in the
bottom right hand corner, and then make sure that the signer remains
totally and forever in that black border so he never encroaches on the
picture? And put the subtitles over the top of the signer (or keep them
only within the programme area). Surely that can't difficult to achieve.


Why can't they have the signer just disappear by pressing the green
button?


the fact that that would require your TV to be able to do it

you could spec it for future TVs if you want but it couldn't be implemented
to work retrospectively

tim






 




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