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Old February 2nd 15, 04:06 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Jim
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Variation on an earlier thread.

The gf is in the market for a new 32" "smart" TV.

I've narrowed it down to Sony, Panasonic, Samsung. Cost is not the
biggest concern, but should be reasonale value.

Any comments on the following please:

1. Smarts:
The router is next to the TV.
She wants catch-up on BBC1/2/4, ITV, Ch4, 5.
Amazingly Sony does not seem to offer this on all the above. I think
just BBC and 5. This seems crazy. Pay services are of no interest.

2. Sound Quality:
I hate the fact that the picture occupies the entire front panel these
days - with tiny speakers thrown in somewhere as an afterthought. Any
comments on the relative audio quality of the above 3 manufacturers -
without an external sound bar.

3. Picture Quality:
Is 1080p necessary/essential on a 32" at normal viewing distances?
Panasonic have a low priced 720p set.
Similar question for 100Hz vs 50Hz. (Sony have 200Hz).

4. HD / DVB-T2 is essential

5. Ease of use. Hope you don't have to be an IT geek to navigate to
Catch-up programmes.

The Samsung UE32H5500 seems to be best fit from the various web-sites,
but what about the audio. It's tough to listen in a showroom.


Thanks folks.
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Old February 2nd 15, 04:21 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
MartinR
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On Monday, February 2, 2015 at 5:06:30 PM UTC, Jim wrote:
Variation on an earlier thread.

The gf is in the market for a new 32" "smart" TV.

I've narrowed it down to Sony, Panasonic, Samsung. Cost is not the
biggest concern, but should be reasonale value.

Any comments on the following please:

1. Smarts:
The router is next to the TV.
She wants catch-up on BBC1/2/4, ITV, Ch4, 5.
Amazingly Sony does not seem to offer this on all the above. I think
just BBC and 5. This seems crazy. Pay services are of no interest.

2. Sound Quality:
I hate the fact that the picture occupies the entire front panel these
days - with tiny speakers thrown in somewhere as an afterthought. Any
comments on the relative audio quality of the above 3 manufacturers -
without an external sound bar.

3. Picture Quality:
Is 1080p necessary/essential on a 32" at normal viewing distances?
Panasonic have a low priced 720p set.
Similar question for 100Hz vs 50Hz. (Sony have 200Hz).

4. HD / DVB-T2 is essential

5. Ease of use. Hope you don't have to be an IT geek to navigate to
Catch-up programmes.

The Samsung UE32H5500 seems to be best fit from the various web-sites,
but what about the audio. It's tough to listen in a showroom.


Thanks folks.


The Samsung is indeed a good set. However, if it's anything like other Samsungs (or indeed other flat TVs), the sound is akin to a market bought 1970s transistor radio and you *will* need some audio enhancement. If you just want your sound to be a bit better than sounding if it was coming from a speakerphone I would suggest just getting some cheap PC speakers, possibly with a sub-woofer, and plug these into the headphone socket. Sound bars are not necessary and seem to be ludicrously expensive given what they have inside them.

MR
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Old February 2nd 15, 05:06 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
David[_9_]
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On 02/02/2015 17:21, MartinR wrote:


The Samsung UE32H5500 seems to be best fit from the various web-sites,
but what about the audio. It's tough to listen in a showroom.


Thanks folks.


The Samsung is indeed a good set. However, if it's anything like other Samsungs (or indeed other flat TVs), the sound is akin to a market bought 1970s transistor radio and you *will* need some audio enhancement. If you just want your sound to be a bit better than sounding if it was coming from a speakerphone I would suggest just getting some cheap PC speakers, possibly with a sub-woofer, and plug these into the headphone socket. Sound bars are not necessary and seem to be ludicrously expensive given what they have inside them.

MR


Recently bought the Samsung UE55HU7500 and I'm very happy with it
picture and facilities wise.
Richer Sounds with their free 5 year warranty and free extras were very
good to me.
This and some Samsung models will get satellite (Freesat) as well as
terrestrial (Freeview).

I have not heard the sound from it as I have an AV Receiver and 5.1
attached as no TV set sound would suit me.

I'm sure you will find a 32" Samsung, but I made a leap in size to this
55" and I did the right thing, had gone to the store with the 48"
version in mind to replace my 37".
Would suggest you go larger than 32" should your budget allow to get the
best out of HD.

Regards
David


My RS branch I believe will set up a stock set in their demo room by
arrangement.
Regards
David
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Old February 2nd 15, 05:49 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
David[_13_]
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On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 17:06:24 +0000, Jim wrote:

Variation on an earlier thread.

The gf is in the market for a new 32" "smart" TV.

I've narrowed it down to Sony, Panasonic, Samsung. Cost is not the
biggest concern, but should be reasonale value.

Any comments on the following please:

1. Smarts:
The router is next to the TV.
She wants catch-up on BBC1/2/4, ITV, Ch4, 5.
Amazingly Sony does not seem to offer this on all the above. I think
just BBC and 5. This seems crazy. Pay services are of no interest.

2. Sound Quality:
I hate the fact that the picture occupies the entire front panel these
days - with tiny speakers thrown in somewhere as an afterthought. Any
comments on the relative audio quality of the above 3 manufacturers -
without an external sound bar.

3. Picture Quality:
Is 1080p necessary/essential on a 32" at normal viewing distances?
Panasonic have a low priced 720p set.
Similar question for 100Hz vs 50Hz. (Sony have 200Hz).

4. HD / DVB-T2 is essential

5. Ease of use. Hope you don't have to be an IT geek to navigate to
Catch-up programmes.

The Samsung UE32H5500 seems to be best fit from the various web-sites,
but what about the audio. It's tough to listen in a showroom.


Thanks folks.


I was going for a 32" screen but then discovered that 40" screens were
cheaper.

Bought a bottom of the range Samsung and the sound is fine - speakers fire
out of the back of the TV and the sound is clear.

The new 40" is barely larger than the old 32" it replaced, and
significantly lighter as well.

Cheers

Dave R



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Old February 2nd 15, 06:21 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Davey
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On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 09:21:59 -0800 (PST)
MartinR wrote:

The Samsung is indeed a good set. However, if it's anything like
other Samsungs (or indeed other flat TVs), the sound is akin to a
market bought 1970s transistor radio and you *will* need some audio
enhancement. If you just want your sound to be a bit better than
sounding if it was coming from a speakerphone I would suggest just
getting some cheap PC speakers, possibly with a sub-woofer, and plug
these into the headphone socket. Sound bars are not necessary and
seem to be ludicrously expensive given what they have inside them.


Our Samsung has better sound than the Toshiba of similar vintage, which
isn't saying much, but the Samsung does fine duty as a bedroom TV without any sound enhancement. Both sets are just over four years old.
I agree entirely about the PC 'speakers, I have a set of Logitechs,
with subwoofer, connected exactly as described for the Toshiba. I also
wonder why soundbars cost so much.hannel tuned to is
One annoying point, which may or may not be relevant: The Toshiba's
SCART socket audio output will only send what the last TV channel tuned
to was, so hooking it up to the HiFi means you can get the picture from
an HDMI input, say a John Wayne movie, but sound from East Enders.

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Old February 2nd 15, 09:19 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Jim
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Thanks for the inputs.

Size:
Hers is a small living room. She likes the size of my 4yr old Sony
32EX503. It is 1080p, 100Hz and decent (not fantastic) sound.
I can barely tell the difference with HD vs SD - if more than a few
feer away. Amazing difference up close.
I "might" give her my Sony - a great set, and get a bigger one myself.

Audio:
Yes, they are trying to make a profit centre out of the crappy audio.
A friend has a cheap Toshiba with rubbish sound.
A colleague of mine like extreme bass, I don't. Maybe the Samsung will
be OK.

Smarts:
I don't need internet catch-up as I get it from VirginMedia. She does
need it. My Sony is limited on catch-up TV (BBC and 5, I recall)

Video:
No comments so far on 1080p vs 720p, and 100Hz vs 50Hz on a 32" set.

Thanks folks
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Old February 2nd 15, 10:48 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Indy Jess John
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On 02/02/2015 22:19, Jim wrote:

Smarts:
I don't need internet catch-up as I get it from VirginMedia. She does
need it. My Sony is limited on catch-up TV (BBC and 5, I recall)


I vaguely recall reading somewhere that most sets have a limited set of
channels for catch-up. (My LG only does iPlayer, for instance). I think
Samsung might have the best choice of channels - or at least, that was
the situation about a year ago. If this feature is important, then it
will be worth short-listing the suitable ones. As has been said in the
thread elsewhere, there are ways round poor sound, and a 32 inch screen
isn't big enough for differences in picture quality to stand out, and
there will be fine tuning adjustments for brightness, contrast and
colour cast somewhere in the menus. So it is the designed-in (or out!)
features that you can't get round that should dictate the choice of
acceptable, and within that set you should then make a choice.

Jim
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Old February 3rd 15, 12:08 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Davey
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On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 23:48:14 +0000
Indy Jess John wrote:

So it is the designed-in (or out!)
features that you can't get round that should dictate the choice of
acceptable, and within that set you should then make a choice.


Agreed again. My Toshiba makes switching Subtitles on or off simple,
press one button twice, whereas the Samsung makes your fingers do a
dance around the remote control to achieve the same result.
There are so many options on a modern set that it is unlikely that you
will be able to check them all out before purchasing one.

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Old February 3rd 15, 07:11 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Paul D Smith[_2_]
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....snip...

Go to somewhere like John Lewis, fiddle and look (they're quite
understanding) and buy from them. Why? Because after 3-and-a-half years
the screen went on my Panasonic and was deemed beyond repair; no quibbles,
they gave me the full purchase price back and I went back, bought a modern
equivalent and was 150 up on the deal.

As to the other comments...

- Do you care about SMART? Most manufacturers (and Samsung especially)
change their interfaces year-by-year and last year's TV will not run this
years must-have app.

- 1080p? I can certainly see the difference between SD-Freeview and
HD-Freeview or Bluray on my Panasonic 32inch. Whether I'd notice the
702/1080 difference, I can't say.

- Bigger is better? Extra cost is normally picture processing not screen
quality. How good do fleshy tones look? How good do SD channels get
upscaled, especially the low bandwidth ones?

Go and look - you won't regret it.

Paul DS

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Old February 3rd 15, 09:37 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Roderick Stewart[_3_]
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On Tue, 3 Feb 2015 01:08:41 +0000, Davey
wrote:

So it is the designed-in (or out!)
features that you can't get round that should dictate the choice of
acceptable, and within that set you should then make a choice.


Agreed again. My Toshiba makes switching Subtitles on or off simple,
press one button twice, whereas the Samsung makes your fingers do a
dance around the remote control to achieve the same result.
There are so many options on a modern set that it is unlikely that you
will be able to check them all out before purchasing one.


Perhaps this varies depending on the exact model. I can't test exactly
how my Samsung TV switches subtitles on and off because I only use it
as a video display and haven't even installed an aerial cable in the
trunking, but there is a single button on the remote control marked
"Subtitles". I would expect this is all you need to press. On my
Panasonic PVR and my son's Panasonic TV, it's just one button.

Rod.
 




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