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Old October 10th 12, 12:10 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Mortimer
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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Paul Ratcliffe wrote:
On Tue, 9 Oct 2012 09:11:59 +0100, Mortimer wrote:

External aerials were prohibited by restrictive covenant on my estate.


This **** is just outrageous. What business have developers (or whoever)
got
telling you what you can and cannot do to your own house. They've had
their money,
so they can **** right off over trying to retain control.
But more fool you for buying the property and again for not disregarding
stupid
things like this.
How many of your neighbours have done so?

The builders normally put these things into the agreement so the estate
continues to look nice while they're selling the last few houses. Once
that's done no-one cares. In any case, such covenants are not in practice
enforceable according to my daughter who is a solicitor specialising in
property.


I don't think anyone has got an external aerial because we all abided by the
ruling when we bought the houses new and the covenant was still "active"
while the builders were trying to sell the other houses. Since then, people
have put up satellite dishes. I dare say if anyone needed a new aerial (eg
original buyer didn't have a TV, today's new owner wants one) they'd put up
an external one.

As it is, my loft aerial works perfectly so it was no hardship to me. If the
houses had been oriented differently and the line of sight had been through
the side wall of the loft and through next door's house, rather than through
the sloping roof, things might have been very different and I'd have kicked
up a stink. At least I lived close to the transmitter so signal strength was
strong.

All it means is that I need to remember to leave the mast-head amplifier
powered-up. I once set a whole load of programmes to record and went away on
holiday, and turned off the mains socket that the TV was plugged into.
Consequently there was no signal to the VCR (which I'd left turned on).
Since then I moved the aerial power into another socket which is marked
"leave turned on" :-)

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Old October 10th 12, 12:23 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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In ,
Bill Wright wrote:

Consider a loft aerial. Assuming that the fact that it's lower down than
a roof aerial doesn't mean that it is more screened from the transmitter
by external objects, the signal it receives will be the same as a roof
aerial minus the attenuation of the tiles (or brick) and minus the
de-tuning effects of any nearby objects, or the effects of any nearby
objects encroaching in the capture area.


In my case the aerial is aimed through the gable end wall, but I think
at that point it's something like thin board with pebble dash rendering.

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Old October 10th 12, 07:19 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 09/10/2012 09:11, Mortimer wrote:
I had an amplified loft aerial fitted in my new house in 2000. External
aerials were prohibited by restrictive covenant on my estate.


They are prohibited here too.

After someone put a JCB through the communal aerial, and a little
searching showed that no-one thought they owned it everybody has put up
external aerials.

Andy
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Old October 10th 12, 09:44 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Andy Champ wrote:
On 09/10/2012 09:11, Mortimer wrote:
I had an amplified loft aerial fitted in my new house in 2000. External
aerials were prohibited by restrictive covenant on my estate.


They are prohibited here too.

After someone put a JCB through the communal aerial, and a little
searching showed that no-one thought they owned it everybody has put up
external aerials.

Andy


Surely the JCB driver/owner would have been liable?

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Old October 11th 12, 08:27 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Andy Champ" wrote in message
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On 09/10/2012 09:11, Mortimer wrote:
I had an amplified loft aerial fitted in my new house in 2000. External
aerials were prohibited by restrictive covenant on my estate.


They are prohibited here too.

After someone put a JCB through the communal aerial, and a little
searching showed that no-one thought they owned it everybody has put up
external aerials.


Bracknell, where I used to live many years ago, had a town-wide policy of no
(roof-mounted) TV aerials. I'm not sure how enforceable it was, but
virtually no-one disobeyed it. Instead, all houses were supplied with a
communal aerial feed free of charge, which later provided additional
non-terrestrial channels and a set-top box at a knock-down price. I remember
they provided ITV from both Thames and Meridian regions; if you tuned your
TV to one and your VCR (played through an external amplifier) through the
other, you got a wonderful echo because of the very slight distribution time
lag between the two :-)

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Old October 11th 12, 07:01 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 11/10/2012 09:37, Martin wrote:
Bracknell night life at its best.:-)


waves What do you mean, night life? When one of my kids complained he
felt old in the local pub I realised I'd got it right all these years by
going somewhere else.

And the best thing about Bracknell? Great communications. Between the
M3 and M4 it's really easy to leave

Unfortunately we can't find anywhere significantly better within our
price range and my work commute. We'll probably move on redundancy /
retirement / a really good offer.

Andy
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Old October 13th 12, 07:35 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 11/10/2012 20:01, Andy Champ wrote:
On 11/10/2012 09:37, Martin wrote:
Bracknell night life at its best.:-)


waves What do you mean, night life? When one of my kids complained he
felt old in the local pub I realised I'd got it right all these years by
going somewhere else.

And the best thing about Bracknell? Great communications. Between the M3
and M4 it's really easy to leave


You know what, despite growing up, and still living in that nearby
London over-spill town also beginning with B, I don't think I've ever
visited Bracknell ! The nearest I've been was a corporate teambuilding
event at the Coppid Beech Hotel.

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Old October 13th 12, 09:12 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 13/10/2012 20:35, Mark Carver wrote:
You know what, despite growing up, and still living in that nearby
London over-spill town also beginning with B, I don't think I've ever
visited Bracknell ! The nearest I've been was a corporate teambuilding
event at the Coppid Beech Hotel.


I have mixed feelings about this post. While I can understand avoiding
here - why THERE?

Andy
  #39  
Old October 14th 12, 04:43 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 13/10/2012 22:12, Andy Champ wrote:
On 13/10/2012 20:35, Mark Carver wrote:
You know what, despite growing up, and still living in that nearby
London over-spill town also beginning with B, I don't think I've ever
visited Bracknell ! The nearest I've been was a corporate teambuilding
event at the Coppid Beech Hotel.


I have mixed feelings about this post. While I can understand avoiding
here - why THERE?


Don't get me wrong Andy, I've not deliberately avoided Bracknell, I've
just never been there, which is odd, seeing as I can actually see the
place from the top of our road !

Basingstoke is alright, it's a 45 year old town really, so it's not, and
never will be a Winchester or Guildford, and the hideous shopping centre
and multi storey car park were torn down and replaced 10 yaers ago.

It's ideally placed, less than an hour from London, the coast, or the
New Forest. Easy to access the Midlands, and the West Country. Also
being a railway junction, you can get to an awful lot of places with no
more than one change of train (usually at Reading).

There are some fantastic pubs in the countryside just a few miles out of
town, no urban sprawl has been permitted south of the M3 (yet !) which
means we're walking distance to a couple.

I work in the town, and that's only a 32 minute walk for me, which
unless it's ****ing down with rain is my default method of transport.

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Old October 14th 12, 12:48 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Mark Carver wrote:

I work in the town

He works for the council as Basingstoke Publicity Officer...

Bill
 




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