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  #21  
Old August 8th 07, 10:16 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Ian Jackson
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In message . com,
larkim writes
On Aug 8, 9:01 am, "Ron" wrote:
Report it to ASA if you're SO bothered. Just use the on/off switch instead.
Far easier and when the switch is OFF it uses no power. Standby is a waste



My washing machine actually draws a current when it is "off". It is a
10 year old Candy, and just has a simple on/off switch on the front.
We bought one of those inline plug devices for measuring the power
consumption of various household devices (not accurate I know, but
gives us some ball park ideas) and my wife noticed that (unlike every
other device in our house) it continued to draw a small amount of
powere even when switched off. So now she turns it off at the plug as
well.

Matt


Has it got a mains interference filter fitted before the power switch
(instead of after)? That might explain the small current draw when
switched off.
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  #22  
Old August 8th 07, 10:26 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
Ben wrote:
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
Indeed - otherwise it would be a perpetual motion machine.

The fashionable term now is 'over unity',



Never heard of that term, to be honest.


It describes entirely credible scientifically sound machines which
definitely produce more energy out than you put in, as opposed to
perpetual motion which describes crackpot laws-of-physics-defying
machines which allegedly produce more energy out than you put in.
Completely different thing altogether.
  #23  
Old August 8th 07, 11:39 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
DAB sounds worse than FM
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Ben wrote:
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
Ben wrote:
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
Indeed - otherwise it would be a perpetual motion machine.
The fashionable term now is 'over unity',



Never heard of that term, to be honest.


It describes entirely credible scientifically sound machines which
definitely produce more energy out than you put in,



What I think you must be describing is something that outputs more energy
than is input from the primary input energy source, but if more energy comes
out than that, there has to be another source, or else it is by definition a
perpetual motion machine.



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  #24  
Old August 8th 07, 12:10 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote in message
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Ben wrote:
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
Indeed - otherwise it would be a perpetual motion machine.


The fashionable term now is 'over unity',



Never heard of that term, to be honest.


What, fashionable?

Bill

(I'm a slob as well)


  #25  
Old August 8th 07, 12:11 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Bill Wright
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"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote in message
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Ben wrote:
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
Ben wrote:
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
Indeed - otherwise it would be a perpetual motion machine.
The fashionable term now is 'over unity',


Never heard of that term, to be honest.


It describes entirely credible scientifically sound machines which
definitely produce more energy out than you put in,



What I think you must be describing is something that outputs more energy
than is input from the primary input energy source, but if more energy
comes out than that, there has to be another source, or else it is by
definition a perpetual motion machine.


No, I think he's being sarky.

Bill


  #26  
Old August 8th 07, 12:18 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Nick Austin
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On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 09:52:59 +0100, "Bill Wright"
wrote:

http://www.standby-saver.co.uk/stand...r_products.htm


Presumably the device uses less power when on standby than a TV set does
when on standby.


It's got recharable batteries inside so it draws zero when in standby.

Nick.

  #27  
Old August 8th 07, 12:22 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
DAB sounds worse than FM
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Bill Wright wrote:
"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote in message
...
Ben wrote:
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
Indeed - otherwise it would be a perpetual motion machine.

The fashionable term now is 'over unity',



Never heard of that term, to be honest.


What, fashionable?



No, over.


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  #28  
Old August 8th 07, 12:31 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Ben
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DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
it is by definition a
perpetual motion machine.


Yes, yes, but you don't call it that anymore, you have to call it 'over
unity' now. Its completely scientifically credible and any attempt at
debunking that you might come across is misinformation originating from
the big oil industry who don't want you to have free power. See,
completely different from those self-deluded cranks and their perpetual
motion machines. And if you don't think so, the big oil guys have
clearly got to you already.
  #29  
Old August 8th 07, 12:39 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
DAB sounds worse than FM
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Bill Wright wrote:
"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote in message
...
Ben wrote:
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
Ben wrote:
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
Indeed - otherwise it would be a perpetual motion machine.
The fashionable term now is 'over unity',


Never heard of that term, to be honest.


It describes entirely credible scientifically sound machines which
definitely produce more energy out than you put in,



What I think you must be describing is something that outputs more
energy than is input from the primary input energy source, but if
more energy comes out than that, there has to be another source, or
else it is by definition a perpetual motion machine.


No, I think he's being sarky.



Ah, I see that he was being sarky.


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  #30  
Old August 8th 07, 12:43 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
DAB sounds worse than FM
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Ben wrote:
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
it is by definition a
perpetual motion machine.


Yes, yes, but you don't call it that anymore, you have to call it
'over unity' now. Its completely scientifically credible and any
attempt at debunking that you might come across is misinformation
originating from the big oil industry who don't want you to have free
power.



Right.


See, completely different from those self-deluded cranks and
their perpetual motion machines.



Yes, completely different.


And if you don't think so, the big
oil guys have clearly got to you already.



I am a big oil guy.


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