I've just had my HD box installed and of course the engineer has gone home,
last on hois list as usual.
a couple of problems you guys mught have come across.
1) the first thing I noticed is that on HD some of the programmes e.g the
simpsons and futurama on sky1HD would never go to 16:9 even though both the
skybox and the tv are set for that. They look like 4:3 and if i change the
tv to 4:3 the go even thinner. On the av input from the same box all is ok.

2)when I switch on the tv it won't take either HDMI or av input from the sky
box as the prefered channel which is what it did with the old sky+ box. now
it comes on with digital tv and I have to change to av then to HDMI or av
whichever to watch sky. ITS A PAIN. My missus is not amused, and to be
truthful neither am I. It seems a retrograde step to us.

Anyone have this same problem and know if theres a way around it

TV is a panosonic viera 42" plasma

TIA

"iz0nlee" wrote in message
om...
I've just had my HD box installed and of course the engineer has gone
home, last on hois list as usual.
a couple of problems you guys mught have come across.
1) the first thing I noticed is that on HD some of the programmes e.g the
simpsons and futurama on sky1HD would never go to 16:9 even though both
the skybox and the tv are set for that. They look like 4:3 and if i
change the tv to 4:3 the go even thinner. On the av input from the same
box all is ok.



that's because they are showing the 4:3, non widescreen show within a 16:9
frame.
you'll have to watch it properly that's all - no stretchovision.


--
Gareth.

that fly...... is your magic wand....
http://dsbdsb.mybrute.com
you fight better when you have a bear!

so they cant have 'stretchovision' on HDTV, thats hopoeless, its not like
its an HD program anyway. and it still wont come on when I switch mt tv on
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"iz0nlee" wrote in message
om...
I've just had my HD box installed and of course the engineer has gone
home, last on hois list as usual.
a couple of problems you guys mught have come across.
1) the first thing I noticed is that on HD some of the programmes e.g
the simpsons and futurama on sky1HD would never go to 16:9 even though
both the skybox and the tv are set for that. They look like 4:3 and if i
change the tv to 4:3 the go even thinner. On the av input from the same
box all is ok.



that's because they are showing the 4:3, non widescreen show within a 16:9
frame.
you'll have to watch it properly that's all - no stretchovision.


--
Gareth.

that fly...... is your magic wand....
http://dsbdsb.mybrute.com
you fight better when you have a bear!

"iz0nlee" wrote in message
om...
so they cant have 'stretchovision' on HDTV, thats hopoeless, its not like
its an HD program anyway. and it still wont come on when I switch mt tv on
"The dog from that film you saw" wrote
in message ...

"iz0nlee" wrote in message
om...
I've just had my HD box installed and of course the engineer has gone
home, last on hois list as usual.
a couple of problems you guys mught have come across.
1) the first thing I noticed is that on HD some of the programmes e.g
the simpsons and futurama on sky1HD would never go to 16:9 even though
both the skybox and the tv are set for that. They look like 4:3 and if
i change the tv to 4:3 the go even thinner. On the av input from the
same box all is ok.



that's because they are showing the 4:3, non widescreen show within a
16:9 frame.
you'll have to watch it properly that's all - no stretchovision.


--
Gareth.

that fly...... is your magic wand....
http://dsbdsb.mybrute.com
you fight better when you have a bear!


If you want to watch strechovision then you have to watch the SD version of
the channel. that is not a problem as the picture will be just as bad as if
you had watched the programme on HD and stretched it.

There is a setting on the TV install that makes a Panasonic start on the
HDMI if it is available.
My 422 Panasonic I have the av setting set to HDMI 1 and the TV setting set
to Freesat on the remote When the TV is switched on if the sky box is on
will go to the HDMI input but if the box is either not on or the box is
switched off the TV falls back on the Freesat setting . Go to the setup menu
and set the power on setting to AV. that should cure some of your problems.

Gary

"iz0nlee" wrote in message
om...
so they cant have 'stretchovision' on HDTV, thats hopoeless, its not like
its an HD program anyway. and it still wont come on when I switch mt tv on




i can't understand how people would care about picture quality enough to
watch a HD channel, and yet care about it so little that they want to watch
a tv show with everything the wrong shape?



--
Gareth.

that fly...... is your magic wand....
http://dsbdsb.mybrute.com
you fight better when you have a bear!

"The dog from that film you saw" wrote in
message ...

"iz0nlee" wrote in message
om...
so they cant have 'stretchovision' on HDTV, thats hopoeless, its not like
its an HD program anyway. and it still wont come on when I switch mt tv
on




i can't understand how people would care about picture quality enough to
watch a HD channel, and yet care about it so little that they want to
watch a tv show with everything the wrong shape?



--
Gareth.

that fly...... is your magic wand....
http://dsbdsb.mybrute.com
you fight better when you have a bear!

thanks for the replies,
I have the tv set to power on av setting, it worked ok with sky+ box but not
with the new HD one but I'll look further and see if it has a setting for
HDMI.

The shows they have in the older format have been watched 'stretched' for so
long now, as it was automatic when using scart av input(still is BTW), that
they look strange if theyre not stretched. But it doesn't happen with the
HDMI input for some reason and I wondered why. as for HD, not sure theres
enough difference to be worthwhile myself but its keeping up with the
joneses isnt it, got to have the gadgets etc

sorry for top posting previously as well, I know it rankles some

"iz0nlee" wrote in message
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"The dog from that film you saw" wrote
in message ...

"iz0nlee" wrote in message
om...
so they cant have 'stretchovision' on HDTV, thats hopoeless, its not
like its an HD program anyway. and it still wont come on when I switch
mt tv on




i can't understand how people would care about picture quality enough to
watch a HD channel, and yet care about it so little that they want to
watch a tv show with everything the wrong shape?



--
Gareth.

that fly...... is your magic wand....
http://dsbdsb.mybrute.com
you fight better when you have a bear!

thanks for the replies,
I have the tv set to power on av setting, it worked ok with sky+ box but
not with the new HD one but I'll look further and see if it has a setting
for HDMI.

The shows they have in the older format have been watched 'stretched' for
so long now, as it was automatic when using scart av input(still is BTW),
that they look strange if theyre not stretched. But it doesn't happen with
the HDMI input for some reason and I wondered why. as for HD, not sure
theres enough difference to be worthwhile myself but its keeping up with
the joneses isnt it, got to have the gadgets etc

sorry for top posting previously as well, I know it rankles some


Just a thought do you still have the scart connected from your sky box. if
so that may cause a confusion also on my TV i have viera link activated.
that may make a difference.

Gary

On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:24:24 GMT, "iz0nlee"
wrote:

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"iz0nlee" wrote in message
om...
so they cant have 'stretchovision' on HDTV, thats hopoeless, its not like
its an HD program anyway. and it still wont come on when I switch mt tv
on




i can't understand how people would care about picture quality enough to
watch a HD channel, and yet care about it so little that they want to
watch a tv show with everything the wrong shape?



--
Gareth.

that fly...... is your magic wand....
http://dsbdsb.mybrute.com
you fight better when you have a bear!

thanks for the replies,
I have the tv set to power on av setting, it worked ok with sky+ box but not
with the new HD one but I'll look further and see if it has a setting for
HDMI.

The shows they have in the older format have been watched 'stretched' for so
long now, as it was automatic when using scart av input(still is BTW), that
they look strange if theyre not stretched. But it doesn't happen with the
HDMI input for some reason and I wondered why. as for HD, not sure theres
enough difference to be worthwhile myself but its keeping up with the
joneses isnt it, got to have the gadgets etc

sorry for top posting previously as well, I know it rankles some

It's also worth noting, although not the cause of the problem you have
(i.e. wanting to watch stuff in the wrong aspect ration), that if
you're watching an HDMI input, then it will only switch aspect ratio
correctly if the Sky box has its resolution set to Automatic in the
settings. You also need a TV that actually listens to the aspect ratio
signal over HDMI. I know Samsung TVs don't, and I know Toshiba TVs do.
However, it sounds like you don't want this either, as that would make
all the SD channels that are showing 4:3 shows display in 4:3.

--
Vincent

"Vincent" wrote in message
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On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:24:24 GMT, "iz0nlee"
wrote:

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"iz0nlee" wrote in message
om...
so they cant have 'stretchovision' on HDTV, thats hopoeless, its not
like
its an HD program anyway. and it still wont come on when I switch mt tv
on




i can't understand how people would care about picture quality enough to
watch a HD channel, and yet care about it so little that they want to
watch a tv show with everything the wrong shape?



--
Gareth.

that fly...... is your magic wand....
http://dsbdsb.mybrute.com
you fight better when you have a bear!

thanks for the replies,
I have the tv set to power on av setting, it worked ok with sky+ box but
not
with the new HD one but I'll look further and see if it has a setting for
HDMI.

The shows they have in the older format have been watched 'stretched' for
so
long now, as it was automatic when using scart av input(still is BTW),
that
they look strange if theyre not stretched. But it doesn't happen with the
HDMI input for some reason and I wondered why. as for HD, not sure theres
enough difference to be worthwhile myself but its keeping up with the
joneses isnt it, got to have the gadgets etc

sorry for top posting previously as well, I know it rankles some

It's also worth noting, although not the cause of the problem you have
(i.e. wanting to watch stuff in the wrong aspect ration), that if
you're watching an HDMI input, then it will only switch aspect ratio
correctly if the Sky box has its resolution set to Automatic in the
settings. You also need a TV that actually listens to the aspect ratio
signal over HDMI. I know Samsung TVs don't, and I know Toshiba TVs do.
However, it sounds like you don't want this either, as that would make
all the SD channels that are showing 4:3 shows display in 4:3.

--
Vincent

Thanks again for all the replies, the switching was partly my own fault,
only one of the HMDI inputs acts as a AVI switching input and the engineer
had used the other one beacause my blueray player was in #1. I havent
watched any non stretch 4:3 progs since I swapped the lead so not sure if
that is affected.