Had the Sky+ upgrade as a treat for the family before xmas. I wasn't
able to be there for the installation, but what can go wrong? So I left
it to the missus.

The installer has routed the 2nd cable across the middle of the front of
the house, the original Sky cable travels along the eaves (hidden)
untill it drops down (again hidden behind a drainpipe) to near enough
where the telly is.

Being NOT very happy with the way the cable was routed I rang Sky to
request it be re-routed, my request was initially denied untill I asked
them to come & take it away, cable, box, subscription, everything. I
watch very little telly & the external appearance of my house is far
more important to me than 100hrs of TV endlessly repeated across 100
channels.

The installer returned today only to point out to me that Health &
Safety rules forbid him to extend his ladder to the eaves without
drilling & fitting an anchor point to tie the ladder too !

"So H&S are OK that you drill & fit an anchor point without the ladder
being tied to an anchor then?"

We agreed to disagree & leave the cable where it is for now but can
anyone confirm that Sky installers are restricted in their use of
ladders on H&S grounds before I committ to another 3hrs on hold to ask
them to take it all away.

"BangBang" wrote in message
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Had the Sky+ upgrade as a treat for the family before xmas. I wasn't able
to be there for the installation, but what can go wrong? So I left it to
the missus.

The installer has routed the 2nd cable across the middle of the front of
the house, the original Sky cable travels along the eaves (hidden) untill
it drops down (again hidden behind a drainpipe) to near enough where the
telly is.

Being NOT very happy with the way the cable was routed I rang Sky to
request it be re-routed, my request was initially denied untill I asked
them to come & take it away, cable, box, subscription, everything. I watch
very little telly & the external appearance of my house is far more
important to me than 100hrs of TV endlessly repeated across 100 channels.

The installer returned today only to point out to me that Health & Safety
rules forbid him to extend his ladder to the eaves without drilling &
fitting an anchor point to tie the ladder too !

"So H&S are OK that you drill & fit an anchor point without the ladder
being tied to an anchor then?"

We agreed to disagree & leave the cable where it is for now but can anyone
confirm that Sky installers are restricted in their use of ladders on H&S
grounds before I committ to another 3hrs on hold to ask them to take it
all away.

HSE rules or Sky H&S rules?

Bill should be able to answer you, but I suspect that there is no direct
stipulation from HSE that you will not use a ladder above x height without
anchoring it. Risk Assessments being the answer to virtually every question
these days.

Working at Height Regs 2005
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/SI/si2005/20050735.htm#sch6 Schedule 6 applies.

I've taken the plunge and ordered Sky+ for installation next Wednesday. I'm
intending to run another WF100 from the dish to the lounge via my own custom
hidden route before the Sky fitter gets here. He will only have two plugs
and some self amalg tape to fit. The last cowboy they sent didn't have any
self amalg and left the cable in a lovely loop hanging down the wall.

Any use of ladders...even a single ladder...and the Sky installer HAS to
anchor the ladder to the wall using a 10mm eyebolt. Its a new thing that
came in about six to eaight weeks ago. the also have to wear a full fall
arrest harness when working on a single ladder

"BangBang" wrote in message
...
Had the Sky+ upgrade as a treat for the family before xmas. I wasn't able
to be there for the installation, but what can go wrong? So I left it to
the missus.

The installer has routed the 2nd cable across the middle of the front of
the house, the original Sky cable travels along the eaves (hidden) untill
it drops down (again hidden behind a drainpipe) to near enough where the
telly is.

Being NOT very happy with the way the cable was routed I rang Sky to
request it be re-routed, my request was initially denied untill I asked
them to come & take it away, cable, box, subscription, everything. I watch
very little telly & the external appearance of my house is far more
important to me than 100hrs of TV endlessly repeated across 100 channels.

The installer returned today only to point out to me that Health & Safety
rules forbid him to extend his ladder to the eaves without drilling &
fitting an anchor point to tie the ladder too !

"So H&S are OK that you drill & fit an anchor point without the ladder
being tied to an anchor then?"

We agreed to disagree & leave the cable where it is for now but can anyone
confirm that Sky installers are restricted in their use of ladders on H&S
grounds before I committ to another 3hrs on hold to ask them to take it
all away.

Why put the dish so high up - mine is a metre off the ground, and invisible?

"Geoff Pearson" wrote in message
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"BangBang" wrote in message
...
Had the Sky+ upgrade as a treat for the family before xmas. I wasn't able
to be there for the installation, but what can go wrong? So I left it to
the missus.

The installer has routed the 2nd cable across the middle of the front of
the house, the original Sky cable travels along the eaves (hidden) untill
it drops down (again hidden behind a drainpipe) to near enough where the
telly is.

Being NOT very happy with the way the cable was routed I rang Sky to
request it be re-routed, my request was initially denied untill I asked
them to come & take it away, cable, box, subscription, everything. I
watch very little telly & the external appearance of my house is far more
important to me than 100hrs of TV endlessly repeated across 100 channels.

The installer returned today only to point out to me that Health & Safety
rules forbid him to extend his ladder to the eaves without drilling &
fitting an anchor point to tie the ladder too !

"So H&S are OK that you drill & fit an anchor point without the ladder
being tied to an anchor then?"

We agreed to disagree & leave the cable where it is for now but can
anyone confirm that Sky installers are restricted in their use of ladders
on H&S grounds before I committ to another 3hrs on hold to ask them to
take it all away.

Why put the dish so high up - mine is a metre off the ground, and
invisible?


indeed, one at my friends when she moved, i hid behind her shed on a little
post in the ground. if it can see in the direction required, hight dont
matter here.

Geoff Pearson wrote:


Why put the dish so high up - mine is a metre off the ground, and invisible?



Yeah but WE know its there, don't we Geoff ?

"Neil - Usenet" wrote in message
o.uk...
indeed, one at my friends when she moved, i hid behind her shed on a
little post in the ground.

This is very strange behaviour.

Bill

"Ade Evans" wrote in message
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Any use of ladders...even a single ladder...and the Sky installer HAS to
anchor the ladder to the wall using a 10mm eyebolt. Its a new thing that
came in about six to eaight weeks ago. the also have to wear a full fall
arrest harness when working on a single ladder
Is this a new Sky policy for their fitters, and does it apply to subbies?

Its been around for a few months with Sky installers. Word is its SUPPOSED
to filter down to the subbies but it seems very doubtful

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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"Neil - Usenet" wrote in message
o.uk...
indeed, one at my friends when she moved, i hid behind her shed on a
little post in the ground.

This is very strange behaviour.

Bill


hahahaha, oops, how one missing word changes it all lol.

one at my friends when she moved, i hid IT behind her shed on a
little post in the ground.