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Old August 1st 17, 07:49 PM posted to uk.telecom.broadband,uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Tue, 01 Aug 2017 11:45:44 GMT, AnthonyL wrote:

To paraphrase a well known saying, there are 10 type of people, those
who understand bits and those that don't.


"...those who understand binary and those who don't".
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Old August 1st 17, 09:22 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Robin wrote:

"NY" wrote:

I can understand why non-computer people refer to megabytes when they mean
megabits, because most other measures in computing are multiples of a byte


Now if octet had prevailed ...


Outside of France ...
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Old August 1st 17, 10:32 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 01/08/2017 11:17, Robin wrote:

Now if octet[1] had prevailed ...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octet_(computing)

It would have caused considerable confusion for users of the ICL 1900
range. It had a 24-bit word which divided into 4x6-bit bytes but would
have looked like 3 octets.

Jim

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Old August 1st 17, 10:35 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 01/08/2017 22:18, Martin wrote:
On Tue, 1 Aug 2017 21:22:17 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

Robin wrote:

"NY" wrote:

I can understand why non-computer people refer to megabytes when they mean
megabits, because most other measures in computing are multiples of a byte

Now if octet had prevailed ...


Outside of France ...


and the music world

good stuff! Only 2 (I think!) to go

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Old August 1st 17, 10:41 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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In article ,
Indy Jess John wrote:

It would have caused considerable confusion for users of the ICL 1900
range. It had a 24-bit word which divided into 4x6-bit bytes but would
have looked like 3 octets.


Presumably these should be called "sextets".

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Old August 1st 17, 10:54 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Richard Tobin wrote:

Indy Jess John wrote:

the ICL 1900 range. It had a 24-bit word which divided into 4x6-bit
bytes but would have looked like 3 octets.


Presumably these should be called "sextets".


Some graphical DEC terminals took pixel data rows at a time, called sixels.
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Old August 1st 17, 10:56 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Andy Burns wrote:

Presumably these should be called "sextets".


Some graphical DEC terminals took pixel data rows at a time, called sixels.

^
Dunno where the digit went 6

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Old August 1st 17, 10:59 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 01/08/2017 22:32, Indy Jess John wrote:
On 01/08/2017 11:17, Robin wrote:

Now if octet[1] had prevailed ...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octet_(computing)

It would have caused considerable confusion for users of the ICL 1900
range. It had a 24-bit word which divided into 4x6-bit bytes but would
have looked like 3 octets.


Sorry, you've lost me there since IIRC an octet meant 8 sequential bits,
nothing more and nothing less. I thought it was defined that way to
avoid the ambiguity of "byte" meaning anything from 1 to 48 (or more?)
bits.


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Old August 2nd 17, 09:48 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Andy Burns" wrote in message
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Robin wrote:

"NY" wrote:

I can understand why non-computer people refer to megabytes when they
mean
megabits, because most other measures in computing are multiples of a
byte


Now if octet had prevailed ...


Outside of France ...


"Byte" has two big advantages over "octet", as a word:

1. It is a single syllable

2. It starts with a consonant, so you don't get the problem of having to
elide the vowel at the end of SI prefix (kilo, mega, giga, tera) with the
vowel at the beginning of octet - or have the intrusive R, as in "laura
norder" :-)

But apart from that, yes, it would have been better if we had used a word
that was not so similar to "bit".

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Old August 2nd 17, 10:05 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 02/08/2017 09:48, NY wrote:
"Andy Burns" wrote in message
...
Robin wrote:

"NY" wrote:

I can understand why non-computer people refer to megabytes when
they mean
megabits, because most other measures in computing are multiples of
a byte

Now if octet had prevailed ...


Outside of France ...


"Byte" has two big advantages over "octet", as a word:

1. It is a single syllable


I'll second that

2. It starts with a consonant, so you don't get the problem of having to
elide the vowel at the end of SI prefix (kilo, mega, giga, tera) with
the vowel at the beginning of octet - or have the intrusive R, as in
"laura norder" :-)


though kiloctet and megoctet might have become common usage (much as
with ohms)


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