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Old November 17th 16, 01:48 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Martin" wrote in message
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On Thu, 17 Nov 2016 11:03:23 +0000, pinnerite wrote:
What do you do at cross roads, roundabouts and junctions, the places in
The
Netherlands, where cyclists get killed? In the Netherlands the priority at
such
places depends on the local authority. IMO anybody on a bicycle, who takes
priority over a car or truck is bonkers. I never did when I cycled in The
Netherlands. What do you do about lycra clad fools who ignore the cycle
paths?


What can be done about cyclists who blatantly ignore traffic lights? On my
journey into York and back out again today I was stopped at the same set of
lights (approaching from opposite directions) and both times a cyclist (it
may even have been the same one!) overtook me on the left and rode straight
through the red lights; the second time a car coming at right angles
(presumably on a green light) had to brake hard to avoid the cyclist that
pulled out in front of him.

What is it about cyclists that makes them think that red lights and zebra
crossings only apply to motorised vehicles, and that cyclists can treat them
as give way signs - or even as junctions where they have priority over
everyone else? Do they think that they are emergency vehicles with blues and
two on, and that everyone else should give way to them? ;-)

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Old November 17th 16, 03:24 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Thu, 17 Nov 2016 14:48:19 -0000
"NY" wrote:
What can be done about cyclists who blatantly ignore traffic lights? On my


I wouldn't worry too much about them. They tend to remove themselves from
the gene pool pretty quickly just like motorcyclists who dick about.

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Old November 17th 16, 03:44 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Solihull Council wanted to implement this grand 'shared space' scheme,
they call it Gateway. It's at the back end of the High Street, where
hundreds of bus journeys are made.

The glossy brochure of this 2.4M scheme showed a fater and child
walking in front of a bus. This was to illustrate that the bus (the
only vehicle allowed on this bit of road) would stop to allow them to
continue to cross. Yeah, right!

They removed, completely a light controlled pedestrian crossing and
proposed no kerbs and a continuous surface. All 'stakeholders' (council
speak for users) had been consulted. Not the RNIB, though! When they
got wind of it they pointed out that no blind person would be able to
cross in safety. A dog is trained to find the kerb and stop at it.
Partially sighted people need the beep of the crossing to tell then it's
safe to cross.

So the council reluctantly put a kerb in, but in what we think of as
childish pique, replaced the light controlled crossing with a normal
zebra crossing 50 yards away.

Office boy designed? Council equivalent of meedja student?
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Old November 17th 16, 04:05 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Yes why does this not surprise me?
The art of compromise often results in a scheme which is the worst case for
everyone instead of the best I find.

So much money wasted than is what annoys me, then they say they have to cut
social care to the old and disabled or charge more for it, then tender it
out, the tenderer then goes down the tubes leaving egg all over council
faces facing a rethink back to what it was before. This is progress!
Brian

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Solihull Council wanted to implement this grand 'shared space' scheme,
they call it Gateway. It's at the back end of the High Street, where
hundreds of bus journeys are made.

The glossy brochure of this 2.4M scheme showed a fater and child walking
in front of a bus. This was to illustrate that the bus (the only vehicle
allowed on this bit of road) would stop to allow them to continue to
cross. Yeah, right!

They removed, completely a light controlled pedestrian crossing and
proposed no kerbs and a continuous surface. All 'stakeholders' (council
speak for users) had been consulted. Not the RNIB, though! When they got
wind of it they pointed out that no blind person would be able to cross in
safety. A dog is trained to find the kerb and stop at it. Partially
sighted people need the beep of the crossing to tell then it's safe to
cross.

So the council reluctantly put a kerb in, but in what we think of as
childish pique, replaced the light controlled crossing with a normal
zebra crossing 50 yards away.

Office boy designed? Council equivalent of meedja student?



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Old November 17th 16, 09:39 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Wednesday, 16 November 2016 20:06:51 UTC, Indy Jess John wrote:
Around a couple of cyclists a day come to grief in the Leiden area

It must be very jarring.

Have you accumulated a collection of jokes like this?


Are you charging Bill with misconducting himself?

Owain
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Old November 18th 16, 10:46 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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brightside S9 wrote:
On Thu, 17 Nov 2016 16:44:52 +0000, Dickie mint
wrote:


Solihull Council wanted to implement this grand 'shared space'
scheme, they call it Gateway. It's at the back end of the High
Street, where hundreds of bus journeys are made.

The glossy brochure of this 2.4M scheme showed a fater and child
walking in front of a bus. This was to illustrate that the bus (the
only vehicle allowed on this bit of road) would stop to allow them to
continue to cross. Yeah, right!

They removed, completely a light controlled pedestrian crossing and
proposed no kerbs and a continuous surface. All 'stakeholders'
(council speak for users) had been consulted. Not the RNIB, though!
When they got wind of it they pointed out that no blind person would
be able to cross in safety. A dog is trained to find the kerb and
stop at it. Partially sighted people need the beep of the crossing
to tell then it's safe to cross.

So the council reluctantly put a kerb in, but in what we think of as
childish pique, replaced the light controlled crossing with a normal
zebra crossing 50 yards away.

Office boy designed? Council equivalent of meedja student?


Pay a visit to Preston. Fishergate and Church Street have been "done".
On Fishergate it just means that now delivery vans can park anywhere.


Yes, they have made a cock of it. You could not pay me to go shopping in
Preston anymore.


 




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