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20" TV with Freeview HD?



 
 
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Old August 29th 16, 01:09 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
David[_13_]
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Default 20" TV with Freeview HD?

I'm looking for a TV for our motor home; the current Sony has suffered a
plastic failure around the bracket mount at the back. If this is not easy
to repair then it will be relegated to in house using the stand and
replaced by new.

I've looked up the specs and it was only 720p and DVB-T but we have had it
a good few years.

I'm looking for a replacement at around the same size (I think I could fit
a 22" TV) but I would like:

(1) Full HD 1080p

(2) DVB-T2 tuner

Although 12V input would be a bonus we have managed on 240V so far by
using an inverter, so 12V is not essential. Neither is a built in DVD
player. Record/playback to USB would be a bonus but again not really
necessary.

Google so far has not been my friend; the combination of 1080p and DVB-T2
doesn't seem to crop up on small TVs which look to be all very old
technology.

Any recommendations?

I suppose I could go for a 20" monitor and an STB?

Cheers


Dave R



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Old August 29th 16, 02:16 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default 20" TV with Freeview HD?


"David" wrote in message
...
I'm looking for a TV for our motor home; the current Sony has
suffered a
plastic failure around the bracket mount at the back. If this is not
easy
to repair then it will be relegated to in house using the stand and
replaced by new.

I've looked up the specs and it was only 720p and DVB-T but we have
had it
a good few years.

I'm looking for a replacement at around the same size (I think I
could fit
a 22" TV) but I would like:

(1) Full HD 1080p

(2) DVB-T2 tuner

Although 12V input would be a bonus we have managed on 240V so far
by
using an inverter, so 12V is not essential. Neither is a built in
DVD
player. Record/playback to USB would be a bonus but again not really
necessary.

Google so far has not been my friend; the combination of 1080p and
DVB-T2
doesn't seem to crop up on small TVs which look to be all very old
technology.

Any recommendations?

I suppose I could go for a 20" monitor and an STB?



http://www.johnlewis.com/browse/elec...N-6srfZ1z0oj31
inc 5 year guarantee

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-and-...46058-pdt.html

http://www.richersounds.com/product/...sams-ue22h5600
(5610 version is white) inc 6 year guarantee

That do for a start?


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Old August 29th 16, 02:18 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Woody[_5_]
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Default 20" TV with Freeview HD?


"David" wrote in message
...
I'm looking for a TV for our motor home; the current Sony has
suffered a
plastic failure around the bracket mount at the back. If this is not
easy
to repair then it will be relegated to in house using the stand and
replaced by new.

I've looked up the specs and it was only 720p and DVB-T but we have
had it
a good few years.

I'm looking for a replacement at around the same size (I think I
could fit
a 22" TV) but I would like:

(1) Full HD 1080p

(2) DVB-T2 tuner

Although 12V input would be a bonus we have managed on 240V so far
by
using an inverter, so 12V is not essential. Neither is a built in
DVD
player. Record/playback to USB would be a bonus but again not really
necessary.

Google so far has not been my friend; the combination of 1080p and
DVB-T2
doesn't seem to crop up on small TVs which look to be all very old
technology.

Any recommendations?

I suppose I could go for a 20" monitor and an STB?


I was in Currys last week where they had a sell-off LG 24MT53S at 99.
24" smart TV with every connector you could want for inputs, 1080p HD,
Freeview HD, Freesat HD. I bet it isn't there now!


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Old August 29th 16, 03:36 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
R. Mark Clayton[_2_]
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Default 20" TV with Freeview HD?

On Monday, 29 August 2016 15:17:37 UTC+1, Woody wrote:
"David" wrote in message
...
I'm looking for a TV for our motor home; the current Sony has
suffered a
plastic failure around the bracket mount at the back. If this is not
easy
to repair then it will be relegated to in house using the stand and
replaced by new.

I've looked up the specs and it was only 720p and DVB-T but we have
had it
a good few years.

I'm looking for a replacement at around the same size (I think I
could fit
a 22" TV) but I would like:

(1) Full HD 1080p

(2) DVB-T2 tuner

Although 12V input would be a bonus we have managed on 240V so far
by
using an inverter, so 12V is not essential. Neither is a built in
DVD
player. Record/playback to USB would be a bonus but again not really
necessary.

Google so far has not been my friend; the combination of 1080p and
DVB-T2
doesn't seem to crop up on small TVs which look to be all very old
technology.

Any recommendations?

I suppose I could go for a 20" monitor and an STB?


I was in Currys last week where they had a sell-off LG 24MT53S at £99.
24" smart TV with every connector you could want for inputs, 1080p HD,
Freeview HD, Freesat HD. I bet it isn't there now!


It should not even have been in the UK :-(

Too good to be sold here.

We bought a Samsung UE22H5610 for the kitchen.

TV and tuner work just fine, but the smarts aren't very (can't open PDF recipes for instance), doesn't do Bluetooth or a Bluetooth dongle and a keyboard and mouse require both USB ports (can't daisy chain them). 7/10



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Old August 29th 16, 04:24 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
David[_13_]
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Default 20" TV with Freeview HD?

On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 15:16:12 +0100, Woody wrote:

"David" wrote in message
...
I'm looking for a TV for our motor home; the current Sony has suffered
a plastic failure around the bracket mount at the back. If this is not
easy to repair then it will be relegated to in house using the stand
and replaced by new.

I've looked up the specs and it was only 720p and DVB-T but we have had
it a good few years.

I'm looking for a replacement at around the same size (I think I could
fit a 22" TV) but I would like:

(1) Full HD 1080p

(2) DVB-T2 tuner

Although 12V input would be a bonus we have managed on 240V so far by
using an inverter, so 12V is not essential. Neither is a built in DVD
player. Record/playback to USB would be a bonus but again not really
necessary.

Google so far has not been my friend; the combination of 1080p and
DVB-T2 doesn't seem to crop up on small TVs which look to be all very
old technology.

Any recommendations?

I suppose I could go for a 20" monitor and an STB?



http://www.johnlewis.com/browse/elec...l-tvs/size=up-

to-22/_/N-6srfZ1z0oj31
inc 5 year guarantee

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-and-...t/televisions/

televisions/samsung-t22e310-22-led-tv-10146058-pdt.html

http://www.richersounds.com/product/...e22h5600/sams-

ue22h5600
(5610 version is white) inc 6 year guarantee

That do for a start?


I need to sign up for Google 101. :-(

Thanks - that has cheered me up no end.


Cheers


Dave R


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Old August 29th 16, 07:29 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Andy Burns[_12_]
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Default 20" TV with Freeview HD?

David wrote:

I'm looking for a replacement at around the same size (I think I could fit
a 22" TV) but I would like:

(1) Full HD 1080p

(2) DVB-T2 tuner

Although 12V input would be a bonus we have managed on 240V so far


My Samsung UE22F5400 is 22", 1080p, DBV-T2 and has an external 14 volt
PSU, which might work OK of the ~13.8 volt of a leisure battery.

I've not tried being violent to its VESA mount though!

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Old August 30th 16, 01:58 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Bill Wright[_3_]
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Default 20" TV with Freeview HD?

On 29/08/2016 20:29, Andy Burns wrote:
David wrote:

I'm looking for a replacement at around the same size (I think I could
fit
a 22" TV) but I would like:

(1) Full HD 1080p

(2) DVB-T2 tuner

Although 12V input would be a bonus we have managed on 240V so far


My Samsung UE22F5400 is 22", 1080p, DBV-T2 and has an external 14 volt
PSU, which might work OK of the ~13.8 volt of a leisure battery.


Realistically a leisure battery in use will settle at 12.5V max after a
short period of discharge.

My advice to the OP is to always run the motorhome telly (etc) from a
pure sine inverter. 'Pure sine' is important.

Don't try to run tellys etc from a 12V supply because:

The van's 12V aux supply will carry huge transients when the split
charge relay operates.
The 12V pos often has a lot of hash on it, especially if you have
fluorescents.
By looking exclusively at 12V capable TV sets (etc) you are limiting
your choice. If the telly packs up while you're on a trip and it's a
mains one you can just walk into the local TV shop and buy another.
If you have a mains telly (etc) and a change-over switch you can run the
telly etc from site mains where available.

It's very convenient to have a mains inverter running. Mine runs all the
time the van is travelling or on site, except when there's an external
supply. The presence of the external supply switches the inverter out of
circuit.

Bill


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Old August 30th 16, 11:52 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Roderick Stewart[_3_]
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Default 20" TV with Freeview HD?

On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 02:58:52 +0100, Bill Wright
wrote:

My advice to the OP is to always run the motorhome telly (etc) from a
pure sine inverter. 'Pure sine' is important.

Don't try to run tellys etc from a 12V supply because:

The van's 12V aux supply will carry huge transients when the split
charge relay operates.
The 12V pos often has a lot of hash on it, especially if you have
fluorescents.


Another problem arises when several AV items share a DC supply and
also have to be connected together via signal cables. In this case the
negative supply, which is typically also the signal earth, can also
have different votages at the different bits of equipment depending on
power consumption and supply cable length. (With AC powered equipment,
supply negative and signal earth are isolated by transformers, and all
the signal wiring can have a common earth plan unsullied by supply
currents). This is a situation that hitherto probably only had to be
thought about in broadcast environments, but domestic arrangements are
becoming more complicated now and often include several boxes
connected together. Presumably this can apply to caravans too.

And that's without even thinking about the fun and games that can
result from discovering a single item of equipment that is positive
earth on a shared DC supply when everything else is negative earth.
(The clue to the problem is that nothing works and the batteries get
very hot. Luckily in my case they were only small ones).

Rod.
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Old September 6th 16, 05:33 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Graham.[_12_]
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Default 20" TV with Freeview HD?

David Wrote in message:
On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 15:16:12 +0100, Woody wrote:

"David" wrote in message
...
I'm looking for a TV for our motor home; the current Sony has suffered
a plastic failure around the bracket mount at the back. If this is not
easy to repair then it will be relegated to in house using the stand
and replaced by new.

I've looked up the specs and it was only 720p and DVB-T but we have had
it a good few years.

I'm looking for a replacement at around the same size (I think I could
fit a 22" TV) but I would like:

(1) Full HD 1080p

(2) DVB-T2 tuner

Although 12V input would be a bonus we have managed on 240V so far by
using an inverter, so 12V is not essential. Neither is a built in DVD
player. Record/playback to USB would be a bonus but again not really
necessary.

Google so far has not been my friend; the combination of 1080p and
DVB-T2 doesn't seem to crop up on small TVs which look to be all very
old technology.

Any recommendations?

I suppose I could go for a 20" monitor and an STB?



http://www.johnlewis.com/browse/elec...l-tvs/size=up-

to-22/_/N-6srfZ1z0oj31
inc 5 year guarantee

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-and-...t/televisions/

televisions/samsung-t22e310-22-led-tv-10146058-pdt.html

http://www.richersounds.com/product/...e22h5600/sams-

ue22h5600
(5610 version is white) inc 6 year guarantee

That do for a start?


I need to sign up for Google 101. :-(

Thanks - that has cheered me up no end.


Cheers


Dave R


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Old September 9th 16, 02:40 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
David[_13_]
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Default 20" TV with Freeview HD?

On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 15:16:12 +0100, Woody wrote:

"David" wrote in message
...
I'm looking for a TV for our motor home; the current Sony has suffered
a plastic failure around the bracket mount at the back. If this is not
easy to repair then it will be relegated to in house using the stand
and replaced by new.

I've looked up the specs and it was only 720p and DVB-T but we have had
it a good few years.

I'm looking for a replacement at around the same size (I think I could
fit a 22" TV) but I would like:

(1) Full HD 1080p

(2) DVB-T2 tuner

Although 12V input would be a bonus we have managed on 240V so far by
using an inverter, so 12V is not essential. Neither is a built in DVD
player. Record/playback to USB would be a bonus but again not really
necessary.

Google so far has not been my friend; the combination of 1080p and
DVB-T2 doesn't seem to crop up on small TVs which look to be all very
old technology.

Any recommendations?

I suppose I could go for a 20" monitor and an STB?



http://www.johnlewis.com/browse/elec...l-tvs/size=up-

to-22/_/N-6srfZ1z0oj31
inc 5 year guarantee

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-and-...t/televisions/

televisions/samsung-t22e310-22-led-tv-10146058-pdt.html

http://www.richersounds.com/product/...e22h5600/sams-

ue22h5600
(5610 version is white) inc 6 year guarantee

That do for a start?


Coming back to this, and I have just read the Which? reviews of 22" TVs.

Pretty grim reading, although I have no idea how accurate they are.

Best of a bad set of reviews is the Samsung UE22H5600.

It does have the ability to pause/record and it does have WiFi.

Most of the other "smart" gubbins isn't going to be much good over MiFi
out in the sticks.

Now to measure up and see if it fits!

Cheers


Dave R



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