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Old December 29th 14, 11:51 AM posted to uk.railway,uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.media.tv.misc,uk.d-i-y,rec.autos.sport.f1
Fredxxx
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On 29/12/2014 10:32, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 29/12/2014 09:55, Rod Speed wrote:


"Graeme Wall" wrote in message
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On 28/12/2014 21:44, Charles Ellson wrote:
On Sun, 28 Dec 2014 21:06:58 +0000, Graeme Wall
wrote:

On 26/12/2014 21:58, Michael R N Dolbear wrote:

"Ian Jackson" wrote

http://www.nigelfaragemep.co.uk/ See 'Contact'.

Actually, Nigel Farage isn't anti-EEC (the old European
Economic Union,
aka the Common Market) - he's against the EU, which now
seems hell-bent more on political union, and (apparently)
bugger the economics.

VAT was required for the EEC and made compulsory for all
members and new entrants.

This change for cross-border services is an obvious fix
which has been in progress since 2008 with all details
available for more than a year.

The four-letter party's MEPs were evidently too busy
drawing their expenses to notice.



They specifically claim not to take part in EU business.

A strange claim from a party which puts up candidates for
election as MEPs.


Their objective, presumably, is to take the money but not do the
job the are paid to do, in order to undermine the institution.


It doesn’t undermine anything.


Which shows that UKIP is as useless in their primary purpose as they
are in every other area.


That sounds like denial.

Have you thought why UKIP have become so dominant? While they might not
undermine the institution directly they will do their best to undermine
our membership of it. Judging by this thread they are succeeding.
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Old December 29th 14, 12:17 PM posted to uk.railway,uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.media.tv.misc,uk.d-i-y,rec.autos.sport.f1
Graeme Wall[_2_]
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On 29/12/2014 12:51, Fredxxx wrote:
On 29/12/2014 10:32, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 29/12/2014 09:55, Rod Speed wrote:


"Graeme Wall" wrote in message
...
On 28/12/2014 21:44, Charles Ellson wrote:
On Sun, 28 Dec 2014 21:06:58 +0000, Graeme Wall
wrote:

On 26/12/2014 21:58, Michael R N Dolbear wrote:

"Ian Jackson" wrote

http://www.nigelfaragemep.co.uk/ See 'Contact'.

Actually, Nigel Farage isn't anti-EEC (the old European
Economic Union,
aka the Common Market) - he's against the EU, which now
seems hell-bent more on political union, and (apparently)
bugger the economics.

VAT was required for the EEC and made compulsory for all
members and new entrants.

This change for cross-border services is an obvious fix
which has been in progress since 2008 with all details
available for more than a year.

The four-letter party's MEPs were evidently too busy
drawing their expenses to notice.



They specifically claim not to take part in EU business.

A strange claim from a party which puts up candidates for
election as MEPs.

Their objective, presumably, is to take the money but not do the
job the are paid to do, in order to undermine the institution.

It doesn’t undermine anything.


Which shows that UKIP is as useless in their primary purpose as they
are in every other area.


That sounds like denial.


Denial of what?


Have you thought why UKIP have become so dominant?


Are they? They've had a lot of press, hardly surprising when the
tabloids have been running xenophobic crusades against Europe for
decades. But are they actually dominant anywhere?

While they might not
undermine the institution directly they will do their best to undermine
our membership of it. Judging by this thread they are succeeding.



--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail
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Old December 29th 14, 01:08 PM posted to uk.railway,uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.media.tv.misc,uk.d-i-y,rec.autos.sport.f1
Jeremy Double
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Fredxxx wrote:

Have you thought why UKIP have become so dominant?


I don't think they are dominant, and they certainly don't seem to be
popular amongst first-time voters:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...-farage-labour
--
Jeremy Double
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Old December 29th 14, 07:40 PM posted to uk.railway,uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.media.tv.misc,uk.d-i-y,rec.autos.sport.f1
Rod Speed
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"Fredxxx" wrote in message
...
On 29/12/2014 10:32, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 29/12/2014 09:55, Rod Speed wrote:


"Graeme Wall" wrote in message
...
On 28/12/2014 21:44, Charles Ellson wrote:
On Sun, 28 Dec 2014 21:06:58 +0000, Graeme Wall
wrote:

On 26/12/2014 21:58, Michael R N Dolbear wrote:

"Ian Jackson" wrote

http://www.nigelfaragemep.co.uk/ See 'Contact'.

Actually, Nigel Farage isn't anti-EEC (the old European
Economic Union,
aka the Common Market) - he's against the EU, which now
seems hell-bent more on political union, and (apparently)
bugger the economics.

VAT was required for the EEC and made compulsory for all
members and new entrants.

This change for cross-border services is an obvious fix
which has been in progress since 2008 with all details
available for more than a year.

The four-letter party's MEPs were evidently too busy
drawing their expenses to notice.



They specifically claim not to take part in EU business.

A strange claim from a party which puts up candidates for
election as MEPs.

Their objective, presumably, is to take the money but not do the
job the are paid to do, in order to undermine the institution.

It doesn’t undermine anything.


Which shows that UKIP is as useless in their primary purpose as they
are in every other area.


That sounds like denial.


Then you need a new hearing aid.

Have you thought why UKIP have become so dominant?


They aren't even remotely like dominant.

While they might not undermine the institution directly


No might not about it, they don’t undermine a damned thing.

they will do their best to undermine our membership of it


They aren't doing that either.

Judging by this thread they are succeeding.


Even sillier than you usually manage.

The most they ever do is get the vote of some of those
who think all the majors are completely useless and
who never like the idea of the EU in the first place.

Nothing whatever to do with UKIP except in
the sense that they do provide something
for those to vote for in the elections that
are completely irrelevant, for the EP.

 




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