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Old February 8th 12, 08:07 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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I am looking for a new TV, with a full HD tuner and LED display. We
currently have a PVR9200T digital recorder, which I want to keep for
the time being for budgetary purposes. This only has scart output.

Most of the TVs that I have looked at appear now to only have HDMI
input facilities. I see that you can buy conversion boxes for around
£50 - is this really the only way forward?

Samsung appears to be a leader, does anyone have views on the quality
of their TVs?

Many thanks

Jonathan
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Old February 8th 12, 08:15 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Jonathan" wrote in message
...
I am looking for a new TV, with a full HD tuner and LED display. We
currently have a PVR9200T digital recorder, which I want to keep for
the time being for budgetary purposes. This only has scart output.

Most of the TVs that I have looked at appear now to only have HDMI
input facilities. I see that you can buy conversion boxes for around
£50 - is this really the only way forward?


Do you realise that the Humax can do "output via aerial"? The picture
quality would be slightly less but if your new TV had an analogue tuner,
that would be a stop-gap and cheaper than £50.

Paul DS

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Old February 8th 12, 08:19 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Jonathan" wrote in message
...

I am looking for a new TV, with a full HD tuner and LED display. We
currently have a PVR9200T digital recorder, which I want to keep for
the time being for budgetary purposes. This only has scart output.

Most of the TVs that I have looked at appear now to only have HDMI
input facilities. I see that you can buy conversion boxes for around
£50 - is this really the only way forward?

Samsung appears to be a leader, does anyone have views on the quality
of their TVs?

Many thanks

Jonathan

Panasonic have dropped the word 'scart' from their latest guff but instead
refer to them as 21 pin inputs [at least 2 AFAIK]
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Old February 8th 12, 08:19 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Feb 8, 9:15*am, "Paul D Smith" wrote:
"Jonathan" wrote in message

...

I am looking for a new TV, with a full HD tuner and LED display. We
currently have a PVR9200T digital recorder, which I want to keep for
the time being for budgetary purposes. This only has scart output.


Most of the TVs that I have looked at appear now to only have HDMI
input facilities. I see that you can buy conversion boxes for around
£50 - is this really the only way forward?


Do you realise that the Humax can do "output via aerial"? *The picture
quality would be slightly less but if your new TV had an analogue tuner,
that would be a stop-gap and cheaper than £50.

Paul DS


We currently use the aerial output for live TV viewing and the scart
connections for recording viewing. Are you saying we can use the
aerial connection for recording viewing. That would indeed solve the
problem. I don't mind a small reduction in quality. Presumably I have
to reconfigure something on the Humax box. If you can tell me what to
do I can give it a rty on our existing TV.

Jonathan
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Old February 8th 12, 09:35 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Dave Plowman (News)
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Paul D Smith wrote:
Do you realise that the Humax can do "output via aerial"? The picture
quality would be slightly less but if your new TV had an analogue tuner,
that would be a stop-gap and cheaper than £50.


A new TV without a SCART but analogue tuner? Bit of a rarity?

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Old February 8th 12, 09:43 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

A new TV without a SCART but analogue tuner? Bit of a rarity?


Has any manufacturer dropped analogue tuners yet?


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Old February 8th 12, 10:27 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Andy Burns" wrote in message
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

A new TV without a SCART but analogue tuner? Bit of a rarity?


Has any manufacturer dropped analogue tuners yet?


Good question.
Wonder how long it will take for all TV sets to have a digital tuner in.
( Sets with Freesat in seem to be getting rarer, also I'm surprised not more
HDTV sets satellite or terrestrial around.)
Regards
David

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Old February 8th 12, 10:43 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 08/02/2012 09:19, Jonathan wrote:
On Feb 8, 9:15 am, "Paul D wrote:



Do you realise that the Humax can do "output via aerial"? The picture
quality would be slightly less but if your new TV had an analogue tuner,
that would be a stop-gap and cheaper than £50.


Are you *sure* about that? I don't know about the 9200, but my
HDR-FOX-T2 doesn't appear to have this facility. It has an "antenna out"
socket, but that's just a pass-through for the aerial signal - it
doesn't appear to modulate its own output onto a different channel in
the way that old VCRs had used to.


We currently use the aerial output for live TV viewing and the scart
connections for recording viewing. Are you saying we can use the
aerial connection for recording viewing. That would indeed solve the
problem. I don't mind a small reduction in quality. Presumably I have
to reconfigure something on the Humax box. If you can tell me what to
do I can give it a rty on our existing TV.


If it *does* do it (which I doubt - see above), you'll need to tune the
analog side of your TV to whatever UHF channel the Humax uses for its
modulated output. So, unplug the aerial downlead from the Humax, leaving
just the aerial connection between Humax and TV in place. Also
disconnect the SCART lead. Then set the Humax to playback (for which you
may need the SCART lead temporarily in place to use the menu unless the
Humax has a manual playback button) and tell the TV to scan for analaog
channels in order to find it. Then save it as Programme 0 (or some other
unused programme number). Then to watch output from the Humax without
using SCART, switch the TV to analog and select Programme 0 - or whatever.

Having said all that, are you *sure* that your short-listed replacement
TVs don't have any SCART sockets? They might be called something
different - like Euro-connectors or somesuch - but I'd be surprised if
there isn't at least one for backwards compatibility purposes.
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Old February 8th 12, 12:22 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Paul D Smith[_2_]
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Are you *sure* about that? I don't know about the 9200, but my
HDR-FOX-T2 doesn't appear to have this facility.


I used to own a 9200 and it certainly does this - handy when we had to
borrow a SCART-less TV for a while.

I can't see anything in the FOX HDR T2 manual about this but I own one so
I'll look tonight. Of course you will have to have low-res output so it's
possible that it's not possible.

Paul DS.

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Old February 8th 12, 12:23 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Paul D Smith[_2_]
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"Jonathan" wrote in message
...
On Feb 8, 9:15 am, "Paul D Smith" wrote:
"Jonathan" wrote in message

...

I am looking for a new TV, with a full HD tuner and LED display. We
currently have a PVR9200T digital recorder, which I want to keep for
the time being for budgetary purposes. This only has scart output.


Most of the TVs that I have looked at appear now to only have HDMI
input facilities. I see that you can buy conversion boxes for around
£50 - is this really the only way forward?


Do you realise that the Humax can do "output via aerial"? The picture
quality would be slightly less but if your new TV had an analogue tuner,
that would be a stop-gap and cheaper than £50.

Paul DS


We currently use the aerial output for live TV viewing and the scart
connections for recording viewing. Are you saying we can use the
aerial connection for recording viewing. That would indeed solve the
problem. I don't mind a small reduction in quality. Presumably I have
to reconfigure something on the Humax box. If you can tell me what to
do I can give it a rty on our existing TV.


Somewhere in the settings you need to select the channel used to output.
You can turn this off completely, and this may be the default. Choose a
channel away from your existing TV channels (i.e. the 6 digital muxes) and
then turn a channel of the TV to this.

Do NOT turn on the "power" option, which is designed to provide power to
on-mast amplifiers.

Paul DS.

 




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