On Feb 8, 6:24*pm, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 08/02/2012 17:46, Jonathan wrote:









On Feb 8, 1:26 pm, Peter *wrote:
The Humax 9200T does have a UHF ("aerial") output.

There is a choice of channels via MenuPreferencesUHF Channel.

See section 9.5 in the User's Manual.

The edition of the manual I have refers specifically to using only an RF
(UKF) connection to the TV. The later version of the manual accessible
at this website does not mention it but the facility still seems to be
available.http://tv.manualsonline.com/manuals/.../pvr9200t.html

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Sadly my downloaded manual doesn't have a section 9.5

Jonathan

See 13.4 Specification "RF-Modulator"

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Jeff

For me that is an appendix!

On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 10:35:12 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Paul D Smith wrote:
Do you realise that the Humax can do "output via aerial"? The picture
quality would be slightly less but if your new TV had an analogue tuner,
that would be a stop-gap and cheaper than £50.

A new TV without a SCART but analogue tuner? Bit of a rarity?

If it didn't have a SCART, I would be looking if it had CVBS & L+R on
phonos somewhere. How are the kids going to connect their game
consoles?

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On Feb 8, 1:26 pm, Peter Duncanson wrote:
On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 11:43:03 +0000, Roger Mills
wrote:
On 08/02/2012 09:19, Jonathan wrote:
On Feb 8, 9:15 am, "Paul D wrote:

Do you realise that the Humax can do "output via aerial"? The picture
quality would be slightly less but if your new TV had an analogue
tuner,
that would be a stop-gap and cheaper than £50.

Are you *sure* about that? I don't know about the 9200, but my
HDR-FOX-T2 doesn't appear to have this facility. It has an "antenna out"
socket, but that's just a pass-through for the aerial signal - it
doesn't appear to modulate its own output onto a different channel in
the way that old VCRs had used to.

We currently use the aerial output for live TV viewing and the scart
connections for recording viewing. Are you saying we can use the
aerial connection for recording viewing. That would indeed solve the
problem. I don't mind a small reduction in quality. Presumably I have
to reconfigure something on the Humax box. If you can tell me what to
do I can give it a rty on our existing TV.

If it *does* do it (which I doubt - see above), you'll need to tune the
analog side of your TV to whatever UHF channel the Humax uses for its
modulated output. So, unplug the aerial downlead from the Humax, leaving
just the aerial connection between Humax and TV in place. Also
disconnect the SCART lead. Then set the Humax to playback (for which you
may need the SCART lead temporarily in place to use the menu unless the
Humax has a manual playback button) and tell the TV to scan for analaog
channels in order to find it. Then save it as Programme 0 (or some other
unused programme number). Then to watch output from the Humax without
using SCART, switch the TV to analog and select Programme 0 - or
whatever.

Having said all that, are you *sure* that your short-listed replacement
TVs don't have any SCART sockets? They might be called something
different - like Euro-connectors or somesuch - but I'd be surprised if
there isn't at least one for backwards compatibility purposes.

The Humax 9200T does have a UHF ("aerial") output.

There is a choice of channels via MenuPreferencesUHF Channel.

See section 9.5 in the User's Manual.

The edition of the manual I have refers specifically to using only an RF
(UKF) connection to the TV. The later version of the manual accessible
at this website does not mention it but the facility still seems to be
available.http://tv.manualsonline.com/manuals/.../pvr9200t.html

Sadly my downloaded manual doesn't have a section 9.5
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You must have a later version of the manual. Try 8.5 on page GB54.

Actually the quality will be rather bad as it will be composite and
modulated, rather than RGB and baseband. And the sound will almost certainly
be mono.

I suggest that you get a TV with a SCART socket while you can. I don't see
the point in getting a super duper TV just to watch poor quality
video/audio.

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On 08/02/2012 09:07, Jonathan wrote:
I am looking for a new TV, with a full HD tuner and LED display. We
currently have a PVR9200T digital recorder, which I want to keep for
the time being for budgetary purposes. This only has scart output.

Most of the TVs that I have looked at appear now to only have HDMI
input facilities. I see that you can buy conversion boxes for around
£50 - is this really the only way forward?

Samsung appears to be a leader, does anyone have views on the quality
of their TVs?

Many thanks

Jonathan

My 6 month old Samsung TV has a mini scart socket, and comes with an
adapter cable. Unfortunately the adapter cable is very short (less than
6") and is totally unsuitable for connecting to a heavy scart cable.

I had to make my own support to hold the scart cable that connects to my
Freeview PVR (Toppy).

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In article ,
Michael Chare mUNDERSCOREnews@chareDOTorgDOTuk wrote:
My 6 month old Samsung TV has a mini scart socket, and comes with an
adapter cable. Unfortunately the adapter cable is very short (less than
6") and is totally unsuitable for connecting to a heavy scart cable.

Just add it to the things like speakers TV makers think don't need to work
properly. ;-)

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In article ,
Mortimer wrote:
Ideally (if cost
wasn't an object) you need each circuit to have its own RCD which is set to
be more sensitive than a master RCD which is there only as a safety net in
case the individual RCD doesn't trip.

Called an RCBO. They are a combined RCD and MCB in essence. They have come
down in price a bit recently, so may become much more common. But are
still much more expensive than an MCB - about X10.

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Consumer_Units_Index/Wylex_Ns_2/index.html

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My 6 month old Samsung TV has a mini scart socket, and comes with an
adapter cable. Unfortunately the adapter cable is very short (less than
6") and is totally unsuitable for connecting to a heavy scart cable.

Most TVs seem to have somewhere that they clip the mains plug to during
shipping. A cable tie to this and another (looped into each other) around
the SCART might take the weight and allow you to use this cable.

Paul DS.

In article , Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:
In article , Michael
Chare mUNDERSCOREnews@chareDOTorgDOTuk wrote:
My 6 month old Samsung TV has a mini scart socket, and comes with an
adapter cable. Unfortunately the adapter cable is very short (less
than 6") and is totally unsuitable for connecting to a heavy scart
cable.

Just add it to the things like speakers TV makers think don't need to
work properly. ;-)

In this case it may perhaps be more a matter of big companies wanting to
plug the 'analogue hole' and help prevent content copying, etc.

BTW This prompts me to ask, diverting the thread...

Do most/all new TVs come with an spdif (coax or optical) output for audio?
i.e. *Not* just HDMI and/or analogue.

Slainte,

Jim

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Jim Lesurf wrote:

BTW This prompts me to ask, diverting the thread...

Do most/all new TVs come with an spdif (coax or optical) output for audio?
i.e. *Not* just HDMI and/or analogue.

I'll venture to suggest that many if not most have digital audio output.
My new telly also converts analogue input from e.g. a PC to coaxial
digital output.

In article ,
Jim Lesurf wrote:
Do most/all new TVs come with an spdif (coax or optical) output for audio?
i.e. *Not* just HDMI and/or analogue.

A mate's BFO 3D one did. But no analogue one.

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