Just noticed that the BBC continues to provide a traditional teletext service
on one of its digital television services -- BBC World (Astra 19,2 East).

It is also worth mentioning that the teletext services of a number
of other broadcasters are also accessible even though their video and
audio is scrambled eg een, canvas, NED-1, NED-2 etc.

J G Miller wrote:
Just noticed that the BBC continues to provide a traditional teletext service
on one of its digital television services -- BBC World (Astra 19,2 East).

It is also worth mentioning that the teletext services of a number
of other broadcasters are also accessible even though their video and
audio is scrambled eg een, canvas, NED-1, NED-2 etc.

Yes, closer to home, RTE's Aertel teletext service is viewable despite BSkyB's
encryption of their services on Astra 2D.

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On Thursday, January 26th, 2012 at 22:08:53h +0000, Mark Carver explained:

Yes, closer to home, RTE's Aertel teletext service is viewable despite
BSkyB's encryption of their services on Astra 2D.

Thanks for the tip. I shall have to try that when I next [manually]
swing the dish around to 28,2 East.

So presumably then you can only see this on older tellies or are we saying
that its a look alike service, rather than an actual service on the old
spare lines of a decoded signal.

Brian

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On Thursday, January 26th, 2012 at 22:08:53h +0000, Mark Carver explained:

Yes, closer to home, RTE's Aertel teletext service is viewable despite
BSkyB's encryption of their services on Astra 2D.

Thanks for the tip. I shall have to try that when I next [manually]
swing the dish around to 28,2 East.

On Jan 26, 9:48*pm, J G Miller wrote:

Just noticed that the BBC continues to provide a traditional teletext service
on one of its digital television services -- BBC World (Astra 19,2 East).
It is also worth mentioning that the teletext services of a number
of other broadcasters are also accessible even though their video and
audio is scrambled eg een, canvas, NED-1, NED-2 etc.

Once LONDON goes digital?....

Euromillions past results available from RTE on Hotbird

Brian Gaff wrote:
So presumably then you can only see this on older tellies or are we saying
that its a look alike service, rather than an actual service on the old
spare lines of a decoded signal.

The teletext data is sent in a transparent data channel within the DVB-S
transport stream, the satellite box then takes the data, and inserts it
into the VBI. Of course the reason it is not directly transmitted is:-

a: The VBI is not encoded in the MPEG video coding

b: Even if it was, the MPEG compression would mangle the VBI data pulses
anyway

On Friday, January 27th, 2012, at 09:58:20h +0000, Brian Gaff wrote:

So presumably then you can only see this on older tellies or are we
saying that its a look alike service, rather than an actual service on
the old spare lines of a decoded signal.

What we are saying is that on your DVB satellite receiver you press
the TEXT (as in Teletext) button and you see the Teletext service.

How I came to notice this is that I changed stations to BBC World
and noticed at the top of the picture a bit of white flashing at
the top of the picture a little bit like the old teletext lines
at the top of an analog picture. So when I pressed the TEXT
button on the remote, lo and behold BBC World teletext appeared.

On Friday, January 27th, 2012, at 02:10:14h -0800,
Semi Retired asked:

Once LONDON goes digital?....

Sorry if I do not understand the question except to say ...

Analog switch off in the London region will have zero effect
on the teletext service carried by BBC World.

On Jan 27, 4:23*pm, J G Miller wrote:
Semi Retired asked:

Once LONDON goes digital?....

Sorry if I do not understand the question except to say ...
Analog switch off in the London region will have zero effect
on the teletext service carried by BBC World.

Technically of course you may well be right.

But,

1 They use the first 2 dozen or so of the
existing Ceefax news pages.
That easy source will be cut.
2 Once London does not have Ceefax
why should anybody else?
It may appear terribly old fashioned to those
who organise things. The temptation will be
to dispense with it.

Time will tell - unless you know better.

I have been watching satellite text
for some time. The euromillions
lottery past results are on RTE but
not on the BBC

BBC World (News) has Ceefax on
Hotbird, Astra 1 and Thor.

You can also get text in Romanian
French and German