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The answer to my Goodmans box problem..



 
 
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Old January 12th 12, 09:57 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Brian Gaff
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Default The answer to my Goodmans box problem..

It appears in someone's infinite wisdom that the designers of the Freeview
box decided to split the audio output from the box in such a way that the
3.5 jack and Scart audio outs are different. This in effect gives the box an
added 'feature' I don't want. So if you plug in a dvd in the back, it will
switch the audio and video off from the box to the tv scart when the dvd
plays, but the jack continues to give the set top box audio out.
The only way I am going to get around this as far as I can see is to use a
break out scart adaptor that allows me to get at the audio from the scart to
the tv. Seems a bit illogical. Do other boxes with headphone/audio outs do
this as well as the Goodmans. No sign of a menu option to change this
either. My old Netgem switched the phones and scart together.
Brian

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Old January 12th 12, 12:16 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default The answer to my Goodmans box problem..

On Jan 12, 9:57*am, "Brian Gaff" wrote:
It appears in someone's infinite wisdom that the designers of the *Freeview
box decided to split the audio output from the box in such a way that the
3.5 jack and Scart audio outs are different. This in effect gives the box an
added 'feature' I don't want. So if you plug in a dvd in the back, it will
switch the audio and video off from the box to the tv scart when the dvd
plays, but the jack continues to give the set top box audio out.
The only way I am going to get around this as far as I can see is to use a
break out scart adaptor that allows me to get at the audio from the scart to
the *tv. Seems a bit illogical. Do other boxes with headphone/audio outs do
this as well as the Goodmans. No sign of a menu option to change this
either. My old Netgem *switched the phones and scart together.
*Brian


I missed your original thread Brian, but I assume you're not using a
TV, otherwise you'd use the TV's headphone output?

The SCART functionality you describe is standard. There are "SCART
controller" chips used in STBs that take the video+audio+metadata
signals from the STB as input, and then handle all switching and
signal routing between those and two SCART sockets without further
intervention. The DVD player audio, which that controller chip passes
through, will get no further inside the STB.

Presumably the headphone output is tapped off elsewhere - maybe to
allow different impedance, volume, etc, or maybe just for convenience,
without thinking about the consequences for loopthrough.

Or maybe its intentional - One use for the headphone outputs on things
is to definitively get at the audio from _that_ device, ignoring
everything else in the system - rather than to provide a general
output from the selected audio from anywhere in the system, which
would normally be provided by the TV itself.

Cheers,
David.
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Old January 13th 12, 08:50 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Brian Gaff
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Default The answer to my Goodmans box problem..

Well the previous Netgem box switched the headphones as well. I do not
always use a screen it is true, and it seems a waste when I'm alone to have
the tv on just so i can get at a hi fi feed of the scart signal to an amp.
I've never really understood why stbs do not have the audio break out
facility to an audio socket as standard as the speakers in tvs are crap.
Brian

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On Jan 12, 9:57 am, "Brian Gaff" wrote:
It appears in someone's infinite wisdom that the designers of the Freeview
box decided to split the audio output from the box in such a way that the
3.5 jack and Scart audio outs are different. This in effect gives the box
an
added 'feature' I don't want. So if you plug in a dvd in the back, it will
switch the audio and video off from the box to the tv scart when the dvd
plays, but the jack continues to give the set top box audio out.
The only way I am going to get around this as far as I can see is to use a
break out scart adaptor that allows me to get at the audio from the scart
to
the tv. Seems a bit illogical. Do other boxes with headphone/audio outs do
this as well as the Goodmans. No sign of a menu option to change this
either. My old Netgem switched the phones and scart together.
Brian


I missed your original thread Brian, but I assume you're not using a
TV, otherwise you'd use the TV's headphone output?

The SCART functionality you describe is standard. There are "SCART
controller" chips used in STBs that take the video+audio+metadata
signals from the STB as input, and then handle all switching and
signal routing between those and two SCART sockets without further
intervention. The DVD player audio, which that controller chip passes
through, will get no further inside the STB.

Presumably the headphone output is tapped off elsewhere - maybe to
allow different impedance, volume, etc, or maybe just for convenience,
without thinking about the consequences for loopthrough.

Or maybe its intentional - One use for the headphone outputs on things
is to definitively get at the audio from _that_ device, ignoring
everything else in the system - rather than to provide a general
output from the selected audio from anywhere in the system, which
would normally be provided by the TV itself.

Cheers,
David.


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Old January 13th 12, 09:57 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Dave Plowman (News)
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Default The answer to my Goodmans box problem..

In article ,
Brian Gaff wrote:
Well the previous Netgem box switched the headphones as well. I do not
always use a screen it is true, and it seems a waste when I'm alone to
have the tv on just so i can get at a hi fi feed of the scart signal
to an amp. I've never really understood why stbs do not have the audio
break out facility to an audio socket as standard as the speakers in
tvs are crap.


Most would use the TV headphone socket or line output - so the TV does the
switching between sources.

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