Geoff Pearson wrote:

Well putting a Radio 4 "extra" wrapper round Radio 7 hasn't changed the
content. I don't know why they did it - Radio 4 is not a brand that
sells in my country (it is English southern country radio - with no care
for its audience - eg You and Yours - which now Clue ribs mercilessly) -
but Radio 7 did.

You have your own Country?

Gosh! Can I ask where you got it from? Was it reasonably priced? Is it a
big one?

--
David Kennedy

http://www.anindianinexile.com

In article ,
Geoff Pearson wrote:
Well putting a Radio 4 "extra" wrapper round Radio 7 hasn't changed the
content. I don't know why they did it - Radio 4 is not a brand that
sells in my country (it is English southern country radio - with no
care for its audience - eg You and Yours - which now Clue ribs
mercilessly) - but Radio 7 did.

Strange. I listen to Y&Y most days and thought it a consumer prog dealing
with consumer issues. Are there no consumers outside the SE of England?

--
*I got a sweater for Christmas. I really wanted a screamer or a moaner*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

J G Miller wrote:
On Friday, January 6th, 2012, at 16:11:56h +0000, Geoff Pearson wrote:

I had forgotten about NICAM. Even so FM sounds a lot better than DAB.
I notice that Swiss Classic Radio broadcasts at 320k on satellite
whereas Radio 3 sticks at 192k. Why don't they use the same stream as
for the iplayer?

If you mean on satellite, then because they would have to take away
that bandwidth from other services on the same multiplex.

Perhaps Mark Carver could confirm or refute whether or not
satellite multiplexes are always statically multiplexed and
never use statistical multiplexing as is the case for some
terrestrial transmissions.

Me !?

Satellite transmissions certainly use stat muxing for video, but you can't
(easily) stat mux audio streams; can you ?


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On Friday, January 6th, 2012, at 18:05:17h +0000, David Kennedy asked:

You have your own Country?

Gosh! Can I ask where you got it from? Was it reasonably priced?
Is it a big one?

http://www.youtube.COM/watch?v=9ZUNwRewEnk

Geoff Pearson wrote:

I had forgotten about NICAM. Even so FM sounds a lot better than DAB.
I notice that Swiss Classic Radio broadcasts at 320k on satellite

Sounds nice doesn't it?

Bill

On Friday, January 6th, 2012, at 18:51:01h +0000, Mark Carver wrote:

Me !?

Yes you sir, because you do know "a thing or two" about
the technical details of satellite transmissions.

Satellite transmissions certainly use stat muxing for video

I see -- obviously from just perusing Lyngsat or KingOfSat
or wherever, the information is not readily available.

In fact you have reminded me that there was a site which gave
details of the bit rates used on Astra 2 satellite cluster
for UKofGB&NI transmissions and entries for ITV-2, ITV-3,
ITV-4 etc were time averaged because they were variable.

From what I recall, I think, the site stopped making the data
publically available and one could only see it with a payment.

but you can't (easily) stat mux audio streams; can you ?

Maybe not easily, but I would have thought it would be possible
(after all some Internet streams are VBR rather than CBR)
but obviously since the bandwidth used by the radio is so
small, there is no cost-benefit advantage.

On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 15:50:59 -0000, "Geoff Pearson"
wrote:


"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 14:54:14 +0000, Alan
wrote:

On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 12:47:38 -0000, "Max Demian"
wrote:

They are proud of the fact
that they don't compress anything, unlike Classic FM.

When did that happen?

AFAIK it's the other way round. Radio 3 has always attempted to
broadcast the full dynamic range. It was Classic FM that decided to use
dynamic range compression.

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

My Videologic DAB tuner has a button on the remote for turning DRC on and
off - it used to work on some stations - it seems to work today on BBC Radio
7. But what a waste of money that box was: £250 in 2005 and a year later
all data rates went down to telephone quality.

I had a lucky escape. I was going to by the Arcam tuner which was
even more expensive to celebrate getting a new job but I found out
just in time that DAB was no longer to be 'CD quality'. I never
expected it to be worse than the FM tuner I was intending to replace.

J G Miller wrote:
On Friday, January 6th, 2012, at 18:05:17h +0000, David Kennedy asked:

You have your own Country?

Gosh! Can I ask where you got it from? Was it reasonably priced?
Is it a big one?

http://www.youtube.COM/watch?v=9ZUNwRewEnk


I don't think that's real.

--
David Kennedy

http://www.anindianinexile.com

Its not quiet, its that all the others are so compressed they sound louder
by comparison, ie the low levels are boosted.
Brian

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"john east" wrote in message
...
Radio 3 on a Sony dab radio is 'consistantly' of very low volume compared
with all other radio stations that I receive. It's weak even when the
'signal strength' is fine. It's in the NW London, finchley central/mill
hill area.

Anything that I can do about this would you say?

Fit a compressor between the line out and an amp.
Brian

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"Max Demian" wrote in message
...
"john east" wrote in message
...
Radio 3 on a Sony dab radio is 'consistantly' of very low volume compared
with all other radio stations that I receive. It's weak even when the
'signal strength' is fine. It's in the NW London, finchley central/mill
hill area.

Radio 3 has always had a very low audio level as they are deadly afraid
that someone will suddenly make a very loud noise. They are proud of the
fact that they don't compress anything, unlike Classic FM.

Anything that I can do about this would you say?

Turn up the volume?

--
Max Demian