Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Yes. The supplier I use doesn't even list unswitched 13 amp in their
budget ranges. But I was never a fan of them anyway. I've not known a
switch on a socket to fail, so I'd guess it's pretty rare.

I have one in the workshop that has failed. The socket was used for a
welder and I think the switch must have melted inside. I can't move the
rocker at all.

Bill

On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 14:28:02 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote:

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Yes. The supplier I use doesn't even list unswitched 13 amp in their
budget ranges. But I was never a fan of them anyway. I've not known a
switch on a socket to fail, so I'd guess it's pretty rare.

I have one in the workshop that has failed. The socket was used for a
welder and I think the switch must have melted inside. I can't move the
rocker at all.

Bill

It's a generational thing I suppose but my late FIL who was an
electrician, always called the human interface bit of a switch,
however modern, the dolly.

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On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 17:25:16 +0000, Graham. wrote:

On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 14:28:02 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote:

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Yes. The supplier I use doesn't even list unswitched 13 amp in their
budget ranges. But I was never a fan of them anyway. I've not known a
switch on a socket to fail, so I'd guess it's pretty rare.

I have has two in this same house. One has been replaced, but the
other's in the spare room, so I haven't bothered.
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says...

On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 14:28:02 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote:

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Yes. The supplier I use doesn't even list unswitched 13 amp in their
budget ranges. But I was never a fan of them anyway. I've not known a
switch on a socket to fail, so I'd guess it's pretty rare.

I have one in the workshop that has failed. The socket was used for a
welder and I think the switch must have melted inside. I can't move the
rocker at all.

Bill

It's a generational thing I suppose but my late FIL who was an
electrician, always called the human interface bit of a switch,
however modern, the dolly.

Which, in the days of toggle switches, was top top part of the toggle
mechanism, at least I thought it was but this

http://www.tlc-
direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Wiring_Accessories_Menu_Index/Toggle_Switches_Al
l/index.html

suggests that toggle and dolly are two different types of switch.

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On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 20:41:07 -0000, Terry Casey
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 14:28:02 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote:

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Yes. The supplier I use doesn't even list unswitched 13 amp in their
budget ranges. But I was never a fan of them anyway. I've not known a
switch on a socket to fail, so I'd guess it's pretty rare.

I have one in the workshop that has failed. The socket was used for a
welder and I think the switch must have melted inside. I can't move the
rocker at all.

Bill

It's a generational thing I suppose but my late FIL who was an
electrician, always called the human interface bit of a switch,
however modern, the dolly.

Which, in the days of toggle switches, was top top part of the toggle
mechanism, at least I thought it was but this

http://www.tlc-
direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Wiring_Accessories_Menu_Index/Toggle_Switches_Al
l/index.html

suggests that toggle and dolly are two different types of switch.

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Ind...All/index.html

If I am right, and dolly refers to the shape of the lever ie a stalk
with a head then they are all dollies.

What about a tumbler switch? I think that refers to the shape of the
cover that screws onto the central spindle, if that is right then the
top three must be dolly and tumbler.

Or does tumbler refer to the mechanical action that most of these
switches have? It would be an excellent word to use, but I don't think
that's why the word is used.




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On 04/01/2012 19:26, Java Jive wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 17:25:16 +0000, wrote:

On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 14:28:02 +0000, Bill
wrote:

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Yes. The supplier I use doesn't even list unswitched 13 amp in their
budget ranges. But I was never a fan of them anyway. I've not known a
switch on a socket to fail, so I'd guess it's pretty rare.

I have has two in this same house. One has been replaced, but the
other's in the spare room, so I haven't bothered.

Some seem to jam if too much force is pressed against the switch - like
when furniture is slid up against a socket and it ends up pushing the
whole rocker toward the body of the switch.

Had to replace three doubles in an office like that they other day.

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On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 14:28:02 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote:

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Yes. The supplier I use doesn't even list unswitched 13 amp in their
budget ranges. But I was never a fan of them anyway. I've not known a
switch on a socket to fail, so I'd guess it's pretty rare.

I have one in the workshop that has failed. The socket was used for a
welder and I think the switch must have melted inside. I can't move the
rocker at all.

I had the switch fail on an MK - it was only feeding a light load and
not switched excessively - just wasn't mechanically good enough. Otoh,
the rest of the MK sockets are fine.

In article ,
John Rumm wrote:
Some seem to jam if too much force is pressed against the switch - like
when furniture is slid up against a socket and it ends up pushing the
whole rocker toward the body of the switch.

Had to replace three doubles in an office like that they other day.

Crabtree used to make a 13 amp socket where the rocker lay flush on the
off position. Which allowed it to be switched off if knocked, but not on.
Seemed a good idea to me.

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In article ,
wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 14:28:02 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote:

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Yes. The supplier I use doesn't even list unswitched 13 amp in their
budget ranges. But I was never a fan of them anyway. I've not known a
switch on a socket to fail, so I'd guess it's pretty rare.

I have one in the workshop that has failed. The socket was used for a
welder and I think the switch must have melted inside. I can't move the
rocker at all.

I had the switch fail on an MK - it was only feeding a light load and
not switched excessively - just wasn't mechanically good enough. Otoh,
the rest of the MK sockets are fine.

Remember being told MK had a much longer than usual warranty - 25 years?
Or was that some time ago? As they certainly used to be so much more
expensive there had to be a reason for buying them? Because by this
thread, they seem to fail all the time. ;-)

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On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 15:30:11 +0000 (GMT), Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 14:28:02 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote:

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Yes. The supplier I use doesn't even list unswitched 13 amp in their
budget ranges. But I was never a fan of them anyway. I've not known a
switch on a socket to fail, so I'd guess it's pretty rare.

I have one in the workshop that has failed. The socket was used for a
welder and I think the switch must have melted inside. I can't move the
rocker at all.

I had the switch fail on an MK - it was only feeding a light load and
not switched excessively - just wasn't mechanically good enough. Otoh,
the rest of the MK sockets are fine.

Remember being told MK had a much longer than usual warranty - 25 years?
Or was that some time ago? As they certainly used to be so much more
expensive there had to be a reason for buying them? Because by this
thread, they seem to fail all the time. ;-)

I hope not! just bought a box of 5 2-gang DP plates from SF. DP with 3mm gap
is good but not if the switch fuses!
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