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Old January 4th 12, 05:07 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Reference TV reception there is no absolute legal right to interference free
TV reception. For an exhuastive exposition of the subject take a look at the
judgement made in the House of Lords a while back.

http://www.publications.parliament.u...4/hunter02.htm


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Old January 4th 12, 05:42 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:07:37 -0000, "Peter Crosland"
wrote:

Reference TV reception there is no absolute legal right to interference free
TV reception. For an exhuastive exposition of the subject take a look at the
judgement made in the House of Lords a while back.

http://www.publications.parliament.u...4/hunter02.htm


There were cases of windfarm developers providing self-help relays due
to TV interference. Of course that was in the old analogue days. There
is a BBC advisory document somewhere on the web.

I'm not up to date with the effect on DTT but instinct suggests it
will be less severe.

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Old January 4th 12, 05:49 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:07:37 -0000, "Peter Crosland"
wrote:

Reference TV reception there is no absolute legal right to interference
free
TV reception. For an exhuastive exposition of the subject take a look at
the
judgement made in the House of Lords a while back.

http://www.publications.parliament.u...4/hunter02.htm


There were cases of windfarm developers providing self-help relays due
to TV interference. Of course that was in the old analogue days. There
is a BBC advisory document somewhere on the web.

I'm not up to date with the effect on DTT but instinct suggests it
will be less severe.



The real point is that there is no fundamental right to TV reception and it
not something that is regarded as what is called in legal terms a "nuisance"
so even if a wind turbine would cause interference there is no legal remedy.
I have not found any legal cases on TV interference caused by wind turbines
but if anyone can refer me to any I would appreciate it.

Peter Crosland


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Old January 4th 12, 05:55 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Peter Crosland wrote:

The real point is that there is no fundamental right to TV reception and it
not something that is regarded as what is called in legal terms a "nuisance"
so even if a wind turbine would cause interference there is no legal remedy.
I have not found any legal cases on TV interference caused by wind turbines
but if anyone can refer me to any I would appreciate it.


Can't provide any legal cases (I'll leave that to J G Miller) but
the text on this page suggests that windfarms do disrupt analogue TV
reception, but not digital.

http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/gallerypage.php?txid=1782

I wonder who paid for the link station ?


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Old January 4th 12, 06:04 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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Peter Crosland wrote:

The real point is that there is no fundamental right to TV reception and
it not something that is regarded as what is called in legal terms a
"nuisance" so even if a wind turbine would cause interference there is no
legal remedy. I have not found any legal cases on TV interference caused
by wind turbines but if anyone can refer me to any I would appreciate it.


Can't provide any legal cases (I'll leave that to J G Miller) but
the text on this page suggests that windfarms do disrupt analogue TV
reception, but not digital.

http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/gallerypage.php?txid=1782

I wonder who paid for the link station ?



It would have been paid for by the company that provides the relay links.


Peter Crosland


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Old January 4th 12, 06:17 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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In article , Peter
Crosland wrote:
wrote in message
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On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:07:37 -0000, "Peter Crosland"
wrote:

Reference TV reception there is no absolute legal right to interference
free TV reception. For an exhuastive exposition of the subject take a
look at the judgement made in the House of Lords a while back.

http://www.publications.parliament.u...4/hunter02.htm


There were cases of windfarm developers providing self-help relays due
to TV interference. Of course that was in the old analogue days. There
is a BBC advisory document somewhere on the web.

I'm not up to date with the effect on DTT but instinct suggests it will
be less severe.



The real point is that there is no fundamental right to TV reception and
it not something that is regarded as what is called in legal terms a
"nuisance" so even if a wind turbine would cause interference there is
no legal remedy. I have not found any legal cases on TV interference
caused by wind turbines but if anyone can refer me to any I would
appreciate it.


but I think you will find that the 'planners' generally took note of the
BBC's objections on behalf of local communities and required something like
a "Self Help" transmitter to be provided. I can only think of one case
where the BBC objected on its own behalf when the input to a nearby
transmitter would have been lost - or at least badly impaired.

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Old January 4th 12, 06:20 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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In article ,
Peter Crosland wrote:
"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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Peter Crosland wrote:

The real point is that there is no fundamental right to TV reception and
it not something that is regarded as what is called in legal terms a
"nuisance" so even if a wind turbine would cause interference there is no
legal remedy. I have not found any legal cases on TV interference caused
by wind turbines but if anyone can refer me to any I would appreciate it.


Can't provide any legal cases (I'll leave that to J G Miller) but
the text on this page suggests that windfarms do disrupt analogue TV
reception, but not digital.

http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/gallerypage.php?txid=1782

I wonder who paid for the link station ?



It would have been paid for by the company that provides the relay links.


Not neceassarily. the previous link was simply off air reception, so
no-one provided it. It is possible that the planners required the Wind
farm owners to pay - as a condition of planning. it certianly happened
elsewhere.


Peter Crosland


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Old January 4th 12, 06:28 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"charles" wrote in message
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In article ,
Peter Crosland wrote:
"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
Peter Crosland wrote:

The real point is that there is no fundamental right to TV reception
and
it not something that is regarded as what is called in legal terms a
"nuisance" so even if a wind turbine would cause interference there is
no
legal remedy. I have not found any legal cases on TV interference
caused
by wind turbines but if anyone can refer me to any I would appreciate
it.

Can't provide any legal cases (I'll leave that to J G Miller) but
the text on this page suggests that windfarms do disrupt analogue TV
reception, but not digital.

http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/gallerypage.php?txid=1782

I wonder who paid for the link station ?



It would have been paid for by the company that provides the relay links.


Not neceassarily. the previous link was simply off air reception, so
no-one provided it. It is possible that the planners required the Wind
farm owners to pay - as a condition of planning. it certianly happened
elsewhere.



Have got more details? AFAIK no such condition would be legally
enforceable.


Peter Crosland


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Old January 4th 12, 06:31 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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The real point is that there is no fundamental right to TV reception and it
not something that is regarded as what is called in legal terms a "nuisance"
so even if a wind turbine would cause interference there is no legal remedy.
I have not found any legal cases on TV interference caused by wind turbines
but if anyone can refer me to any I would appreciate it.

Peter Crosland



I might be wrong but I seem to remember a comprehensive report on the
Ofcom website somewhere recently.....
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Old January 4th 12, 06:36 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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In article ,
Peter Crosland wrote:

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Have got more details? AFAIK no such condition would be legally
enforceable.


If it was a condition of Planning Permission then it is quite legally
enforceable - just like any other planning condition. In a great many
grants of Planning Permission there are requirements like this, especially
when it is a large development. My next door neihbour had certain
conditions laid down which he ignored. i told Planning Enforcement and all
work had to stop until the conditions were complied with.

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