On Tuesday, January 3rd, 2012, at 19:04:25h +0000, Mark Carver wrote:

The Radio Authority used to fine stations for doing that, another
example of how totally useless Ofcom are.

Do not worry, Ofcom will no longer exist after Jeremy Hunt has
deregulated the broadcasting/telecommunications industry even
further and there is no regulatory policy authority.

Did you make a submission to the request for views
from DCMS on deregulation of communications or did you
think it was just a pointless exercise in fake liberal
bourgeois democracy?

http://www.dcms.gov.UK/consultations/8678.aspx

J G Miller wrote:
On Tuesday, January 3rd, 2012, at 19:04:25h +0000, Mark Carver wrote:

The Radio Authority used to fine stations for doing that, another
example of how totally useless Ofcom are.

Do not worry, Ofcom will no longer exist after Jeremy Hunt has
deregulated the broadcasting/telecommunications industry even
further and there is no regulatory policy authority.

Did you make a submission to the request for views
from DCMS on deregulation of communications

No

or did you
think it was just a pointless exercise in fake liberal
bourgeois democracy?

Yes, more or less.

In article , Mark Carver
scribeth thus
Woody wrote:
I owe you all an apology. Yes Classic does indeed carry a TA
flag. Impossible to tell on my radio whether this is EON
derived (like the Beeb's) or whether it's part of the bog
standard element, (as ILR stations use). I never listen to
Classic FM, do they have their own travel news ?


On the half hour - and just to be different they start in the
south and work north!

And they raise TP such that the volume on your radio increases, or interrupts
a CD etc ?





Umm...

They broadcast rather the TP thats the identifier that the station
carries TA (traffic announcements) oft referred to as the "Traffic flag"


FWIW from the Ofcom Analogue engineering code ....

Where the RDS system is implemented, all information transmitted must be
accurate with respect to its content and timing. The Programme
Identification (PI), Programme Service (PS) Name, and any other features
that Ofcom may deem to be necessary, must be as specified in Annex 4
Part II of the B. Act licence.

Dynamic alteration of the PS Name is not permitted, nor is transmission
of the Traffic Programme (TP) flag unless dynamic control of the Traffic
Announcement (TA) flag is available and in current use.

The allocation of PI codes, and control of certain other RDS features
are of necessity made centrally by Ofcom, in co-operation with the BBC.

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Tony Sayer

tony sayer wrote:

Dynamic alteration of the PS Name is not permitted, nor is transmission
of the Traffic Programme (TP) flag unless dynamic control of the Traffic
Announcement (TA) flag is available and in current use.

Which Classic FM are clearly not complying with ?


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In article , Mark Carver
scribeth thus
tony sayer wrote:

Dynamic alteration of the PS Name is not permitted, nor is transmission
of the Traffic Programme (TP) flag unless dynamic control of the Traffic
Announcement (TA) flag is available and in current use.

Which Classic FM are clearly not complying with ?




So it would seem...

Unless they have some dispensation..


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Tony Sayer

On Tue, 3 Jan 2012 22:05:51 +0000 (UTC), J G Miller
wrote:

On Sunday, January 1st, 2012, at 16:00:51h +0000, Another Dave asked:

When I go to France my (analogue FM) car radio gives the title of the
piece of music playing. Why doesn't this happen in the UK?

Because they are *misusing* the RDS system.

The title of the music playing should be on the RDS RT (Radio Text)
data field and NOT the RDS PS (Program Service) data field.

In NL they send out speed control info too - motorway location such as
"A2 HMP 15km". As for Italy, full blown ads. It's a twitter concept I
suppose.

In Bahrain they (mis)use the same PS to tell drivers not to drink and
drive. Is this a lesser evil use?

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Colum Mylod wrote:

In NL they send out speed control info too - motorway location such as
"A2 HMP 15km". As for Italy, full blown ads. It's a twitter concept I
suppose.

In Bahrain they (mis)use the same PS to tell drivers not to drink and
drive. Is this a lesser evil use?

Back in the mid 1990s Ireland's RTE (proper state broadcaster, and fully paid
up member of the EBU) also used to have dynamic PS. I wonder who smacked their
wrists ?


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