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Old December 29th 11, 07:50 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Michael Chare[_3_]
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I would like a way of stopping the stupid commentary that accompanies so
many programmes and just tells me what I can perfectly well see on the
TV. Often a female voice is used.

Maybe they could broadcast a 2nd soundtrack without this commentary.


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Old December 29th 11, 07:57 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Michael Chare wrote:
I would like a way of stopping the stupid commentary that accompanies so
many programmes and just tells me what I can perfectly well see on the
TV. Often a female voice is used.


Never heard it

Maybe they could broadcast a 2nd soundtrack without this commentary.


But they do ! Your receiver must be stuck in AD (Audio Description) mode ?


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Old December 29th 11, 08:13 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 20:50:14 +0000, Michael Chare
mUNDERSCOREnews@chareDOTorgDOTuk wrote:

I would like a way of stopping the stupid commentary that accompanies so
many programmes and just tells me what I can perfectly well see on the
TV. Often a female voice is used.

Maybe they could broadcast a 2nd soundtrack without this commentary.


It IS a second soundtrack, and far from being stuid, it's a Godsend
for those that need it.

It's called AD or audio discription. It's not normaly switched on by
default, and most receivers wont play it anyway.

You need to look through your menus and see where it's been swiched
on, or RTFM.
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Old December 29th 11, 09:01 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Michael Chare wrote:

I would like a way of stopping the stupid commentary that accompanies
so many programmes and just tells me what I can perfectly well see on
the TV. Often a female voice is used.

Maybe they could broadcast a 2nd soundtrack without this commentary.


RTFM .. it sounds like it's in Audio Description mode ..

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Old December 29th 11, 09:11 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 29/12/2011 8:50 PM, Michael Chare wrote:
I would like a way of stopping the stupid commentary that accompanies so
many programmes and just tells me what I can perfectly well see on the
TV. Often a female voice is used.

Maybe they could broadcast a 2nd soundtrack without this commentary.



There is a second commentary - and you're listening to it.
set your tv up correctly.

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Old December 30th 11, 12:19 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Michael Chare[_3_]
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On 29/12/2011 20:57, Mark Carver wrote:
Michael Chare wrote:
I would like a way of stopping the stupid commentary that accompanies
so many programmes and just tells me what I can perfectly well see on
the TV. Often a female voice is used.


Never heard it

Maybe they could broadcast a 2nd soundtrack without this commentary.


But they do ! Your receiver must be stuck in AD (Audio Description) mode ?



Thanks. I suspect that I have got the NARrative sound track on the BBC
HD channels because that sound track is in MPEG rather than AC3.

From what I can see on satellite, BBC 1 London carries the NAR
soundtrack but BBC 1 South East and some other regional versions do not.
A policy that other broadcasters appear to follow.


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Michael Chare
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Old December 30th 11, 12:45 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Graham.[_2_]
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 01:19:33 +0000, Michael Chare
mUNDERSCOREnews@chareDOTorgDOTuk wrote:

On 29/12/2011 20:57, Mark Carver wrote:
Michael Chare wrote:
I would like a way of stopping the stupid commentary that accompanies
so many programmes and just tells me what I can perfectly well see on
the TV. Often a female voice is used.


Never heard it

Maybe they could broadcast a 2nd soundtrack without this commentary.


But they do ! Your receiver must be stuck in AD (Audio Description) mode ?



Thanks. I suspect that I have got the NARrative sound track on the BBC
HD channels because that sound track is in MPEG rather than AC3.

From what I can see on satellite, BBC 1 London carries the NAR
soundtrack but BBC 1 South East and some other regional versions do not.
A policy that other broadcasters appear to follow.


Better that than when the ITV regions got the teletext subtitles of a
completely different London program - and the viewers still tried to
follow the plot.
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Old December 30th 11, 07:59 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Its interesting. I think its all part of the dumbing down. Having said that
though, I recall a little historic film mentioned here about the building of
the first 1000 foot mast. That was a long time ago and I as a blind person
could follow it very well from the commentary, so its always been done. The
difference I suspect is that wheras in those days significant extra info was
conveyed, ie why it was done the way it was etc, rather then now, where they
state the bleedin obvious in true Blue Peter/Tomorrows World fashion.

Ad is of course done on an extra track and the sound faded to give it some
prominence. Sadly the state of this art seems to be going down hil. In
recent shows I've noticed the fade up and cliping at the end of a sentence,
and in some cases such a low level of audio as to be inaudible over the
faded down programme sound.
Some are over verbose and many are less than adaquate. In reality, all we
really need is who is saying the words, and context etc like Mary is
standing naked and bill has picked up the knife. Not loads of tosh about the
bathroom decor and whether the room is steamy or not.
Brian

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"Michael Chare" mUNDERSCOREnews@chareDOTorgDOTuk wrote in message
...
I would like a way of stopping the stupid commentary that accompanies so
many programmes and just tells me what I can perfectly well see on the TV.
Often a female voice is used.

Maybe they could broadcast a 2nd soundtrack without this commentary.


--
Michael Chare



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Old December 30th 11, 08:03 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Brian Gaff
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Don't know about that, but in my experience, its mostly male narators. I am
wondering if you are perhaps actually hearing what they want you to hear.
Certainly some of the how do they do it, or this is how xxxxx is made
programmes have the patronising over the top AD on the normal sound of the
piece. Great for us, though sometimes I do feel like shoving a tennis ball
down the narrators throat when he says the obvious for the third time..
grin.
Brian

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On 29/12/2011 20:57, Mark Carver wrote:
Michael Chare wrote:
I would like a way of stopping the stupid commentary that accompanies
so many programmes and just tells me what I can perfectly well see on
the TV. Often a female voice is used.


Never heard it

Maybe they could broadcast a 2nd soundtrack without this commentary.


But they do ! Your receiver must be stuck in AD (Audio Description) mode
?



Thanks. I suspect that I have got the NARrative sound track on the BBC HD
channels because that sound track is in MPEG rather than AC3.

From what I can see on satellite, BBC 1 London carries the NAR soundtrack
but BBC 1 South East and some other regional versions do not. A policy
that other broadcasters appear to follow.


--
Michael Chare



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Old December 30th 11, 08:34 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Alan[_4_]
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In message , Brian Gaff
wrote

Great for us, though sometimes I do feel like shoving a tennis ball
down the narrators throat when he says the obvious for the third time..


Isn't the service provided by the "does he take sugar" brigade?
Obviously being blind makes you more prone to forgetfulness.

Us seeing people also have to put up with viewing the same thing over
and over again just in case we have forgotten what happened on the
screen 5 minutes ago
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