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Old December 27th 11, 12:04 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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A while back, there was a tale about the retirement of the microwave
dishes on the BT tower in London due to the introduction of new
technology (fibre optics?). As I understand it, there are a series of
BT microwave towers around the country, at least, there is one in
Heaton Park in Manchester. So what is to happen to these towers if the
network is going to F/O?

Thanks,

David Paste.
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Old December 27th 11, 12:40 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 27/12/2011 01:04, David Paste wrote:
A while back, there was a tale about the retirement of the microwave
dishes on the BT tower in London due to the introduction of new
technology (fibre optics?). As I understand it, there are a series of
BT microwave towers around the country, at least, there is one in
Heaton Park in Manchester. So what is to happen to these towers if the
network is going to F/O?

Thanks,

David Paste.


Me, standing pretty much at the same spot in Heaton Park to take this in
about 1965:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/g3zvt/6...ream/lightbox/

and last year:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/g3zvt/6578525475/lightbox/
So lots of dishes still apparently in use.


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Old December 27th 11, 08:49 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default BT towers.

In article
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David Paste wrote:
A while back, there was a tale about the retirement of the microwave
dishes on the BT tower in London due to the introduction of new
technology (fibre optics?). As I understand it, there are a series of
BT microwave towers around the country, at least, there is one in
Heaton Park in Manchester. So what is to happen to these towers if the
network is going to F/O?


They'll be on Grand Designs next year.

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Old December 27th 11, 12:34 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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In article
s.com, David Paste scribeth thus
A while back, there was a tale about the retirement of the microwave
dishes on the BT tower in London due to the introduction of new
technology (fibre optics?). As I understand it, there are a series of
BT microwave towers around the country, at least, there is one in
Heaton Park in Manchester. So what is to happen to these towers if the
network is going to F/O?

Thanks,

David Paste.


Yes I believe subrit did a good series on them..
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Old December 27th 11, 12:46 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Mon, 26 Dec 2011 17:04:37 -0800 (PST), David Paste
wrote:

A while back, there was a tale about the retirement of the microwave
dishes on the BT tower in London due to the introduction of new
technology (fibre optics?). As I understand it, there are a series of
BT microwave towers around the country, at least, there is one in
Heaton Park in Manchester. So what is to happen to these towers if the
network is going to F/O?

Thanks,

David Paste.


They will all be back in use when someone points out to BT that
microwaves don't need thousands of miles of digging!

Steve

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Old December 27th 11, 02:33 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default BT towers.

In article , Stephen
Wolstenholme scribeth thus
On Mon, 26 Dec 2011 17:04:37 -0800 (PST), David Paste
wrote:

A while back, there was a tale about the retirement of the microwave
dishes on the BT tower in London due to the introduction of new
technology (fibre optics?). As I understand it, there are a series of
BT microwave towers around the country, at least, there is one in
Heaton Park in Manchester. So what is to happen to these towers if the
network is going to F/O?

Thanks,

David Paste.


They will all be back in use when someone points out to BT that
microwaves don't need thousands of miles of digging!



The diggings now been done. Fibre does it all and much greater
capacity..
Steve


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Old December 27th 11, 02:39 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default BT towers.

On Mon, 26 Dec 2011 17:04:37 -0800 (PST), David Paste
wrote:

A while back, there was a tale about the retirement of the microwave
dishes on the BT tower in London due to the introduction of new
technology (fibre optics?). As I understand it, there are a series of
BT microwave towers around the country, at least, there is one in
Heaton Park in Manchester. So what is to happen to these towers if the
network is going to F/O?


There's always a use for hilltop masts and towers. Few are truly
redundant and it would be a very shortsighted owner who knocked one
down.
Look at Mendlesham and Chillerton. Both built originally for TV and no
longer used for the purpose, but still very busy with other services.

Anyone interested in the BT microwave towers should read "Beneath the
City Streets" by Peter Laurie.

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Old December 27th 11, 02:55 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Until someone puts a JCB bucket through them ...

On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 15:33:00 +0000, tony sayer
wrote:

The diggings now been done. Fibre does it all and much greater
capacity..

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Old December 27th 11, 03:23 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 15:33:00 +0000, tony sayer
wrote:

In article , Stephen
Wolstenholme scribeth thus
On Mon, 26 Dec 2011 17:04:37 -0800 (PST), David Paste
wrote:

A while back, there was a tale about the retirement of the microwave
dishes on the BT tower in London due to the introduction of new
technology (fibre optics?). As I understand it, there are a series of
BT microwave towers around the country, at least, there is one in
Heaton Park in Manchester. So what is to happen to these towers if the
network is going to F/O?

Thanks,

David Paste.


They will all be back in use when someone points out to BT that
microwaves don't need thousands of miles of digging!



The diggings now been done. Fibre does it all and much greater
capacity..


We were dug up years ago but never got connected because I don't want
my garden wrecked! There are still many areas who have not been
connected. For every mile of street there is another mile or two to
connect to the houses. 100% fibre connection will reach a limit of
capacity and then there is microwave. Bear in mind that the methods of
getting more bandwidth on fibre can also be used in microwave.

Steve


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Old December 27th 11, 03:59 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default BT towers.

On 27/12/2011 16:23, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 15:33:00 +0000, tony
wrote:

In , Stephen
scribeth thus
On Mon, 26 Dec 2011 17:04:37 -0800 (PST), David Paste
wrote:

A while back, there was a tale about the retirement of the microwave
dishes on the BT tower in London due to the introduction of new
technology (fibre optics?). As I understand it, there are a series of
BT microwave towers around the country, at least, there is one in
Heaton Park in Manchester. So what is to happen to these towers if the
network is going to F/O?

Thanks,

David Paste.

They will all be back in use when someone points out to BT that
microwaves don't need thousands of miles of digging!



The diggings now been done. Fibre does it all and much greater
capacity..


We were dug up years ago but never got connected because I don't want
my garden wrecked! There are still many areas who have not been
connected. For every mile of street there is another mile or two to
connect to the houses. 100% fibre connection will reach a limit of
capacity and then there is microwave. Bear in mind that the methods of
getting more bandwidth on fibre can also be used in microwave.

Steve


I think the topic thus far has been about trunk connection between
cities, rather than the distribution networks within them.


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