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December 21st 11, 07:44 PM
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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message ... They probably need to shift Blue Ray as the next technical innovation will make them all pointless. BluRay not caught on yet with Joe Public, a lot of people do not want to pay more for a BluRay over normal DVD price. Regards David And why should they? The manufacturing costs are very similar so the extra cost is simply more profit. -- David Kennedy http://www.anindianinexile.com 
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December 21st 11, 09:49 PM
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"David Kennedy" wrote in message news  David wrote: "Brian Gaff" wrote in message ... They probably need to shift Blue Ray as the next technical innovation will make them all pointless. BluRay not caught on yet with Joe Public, a lot of people do not want to pay more for a BluRay over normal DVD price. Regards David And why should they? The manufacturing costs are very similar so the extra cost is simply more profit. Have you any figures to support that assertion? I find that blank BD-R discs are significantly more expensive that DVD+DL discs. -- JohnT
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December 22nd 11, 06:17 AM
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"JohnT" wrote in message ... "David Kennedy" wrote in message news David wrote: "Brian Gaff" wrote in message ... They probably need to shift Blue Ray as the next technical innovation will make them all pointless. BluRay not caught on yet with Joe Public, a lot of people do not want to pay more for a BluRay over normal DVD price. Regards David And why should they? The manufacturing costs are very similar so the extra cost is simply more profit. Have you any figures to support that assertion? I find that blank BD-R discs are significantly more expensive that DVD+DL discs. -- I guess it does not mean they cost more to make does it, could be rip off again like the Movie BluRay. Regards David
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December 22nd 11, 12:52 PM
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JohnT wrote:
"David Kennedy" wrote in message news David wrote: "Brian Gaff" wrote in message ... They probably need to shift Blue Ray as the next technical innovation will make them all pointless. BluRay not caught on yet with Joe Public, a lot of people do not want to pay more for a BluRay over normal DVD price. Regards David And why should they? The manufacturing costs are very similar so the extra cost is simply more profit. Have you any figures to support that assertion? I find that blank BD-R discs are significantly more expensive that DVD+DL discs. Which has absolutely nothing to do with the cost of _pressing_ commercial discs. -- Adrian
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December 22nd 11, 04:32 PM
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"Adrian" wrote in message ... JohnT wrote: "David Kennedy" wrote in message news David wrote: Have you any figures to support that assertion? I find that blank BD-R discs are significantly more expensive that DVD+DL discs. Which has absolutely nothing to do with the cost of _pressing_ commercial discs. So when pressing a movie they have no disc to start with? Regards David
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December 22nd 11, 05:40 PM
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On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 17:32:48 -0000, "David" wrote:
"Adrian" wrote in message ... JohnT wrote: "David Kennedy" wrote in message news David wrote: Have you any figures to support that assertion? I find that blank BD-R discs are significantly more expensive that DVD+DL discs. Which has absolutely nothing to do with the cost of _pressing_ commercial discs. So when pressing a movie they have no disc to start with? Regards Yes, they do have a disc. However, a CD, DVD or Blu-Ray disc used for "pressing" is physically different from one used for recording or one used for rewriting. -- Peter Duncanson (in uk.tech.digital-tv)
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December 22nd 11, 06:56 PM
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JohnT wrote:
Have you any figures to support that assertion? I find that blank BD-R discs are significantly more expensive that DVD+DL discs. Personal experience. But, as a back up http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/#bluray_pricing Obviously, actual price will depend on quantity, a low volume run of say 1,000 DVDs [assuming you have the master and the print ready artwork] would be around £750, a blue ray would probably cost an extra 50 quid. So, for low volume a difference of less than 10%, once you get to large production runs then it's probably nearer to 3% although these people http://www.duplicationcentre.co.uk/ seem to feel that for really low volume runs of around 100 pcs the difference would be around 50%. Even so their prices come out at 3.64 per blu ray disc which does still leave a little profit for the seller... -- David Kennedy http://www.anindianinexile.com
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December 23rd 11, 11:06 AM
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David wrote:
"Adrian" wrote in message ... JohnT wrote: "David Kennedy" wrote in message news David wrote: Have you any figures to support that assertion? I find that blank BD-R discs are significantly more expensive that DVD+DL discs. Which has absolutely nothing to do with the cost of _pressing_ commercial discs. So when pressing a movie they have no disc to start with? Regards David Don't be so stupid! -- Adrian
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December 23rd 11, 04:40 PM
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On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 18:40:13 +0000, Peter Duncanson wrote:
Yes, they do have a disc. However, a CD, DVD or Blu-Ray disc used for "pressing" is physically different from one used for recording or one used for rewriting. Since a Blu-Ray (tm) disc (phew spelt it correctly this time) "contains" considerably more data than a CD or DVD, does it takes a significantly longer time to press. Since time is money on a production line, the cost of pressing a Blu-Ray is therefore more than that of a CD or DVD. But not of the order of magnitude in price difference in the stores. Remember when DVDs were of the order of GBP 30, and now you can get DVDs for under GBP 5 in the supermarket? Given time, the cost of Blu-Ray disc releases will eventually come down to a more reasonable level.
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December 23rd 11, 08:05 PM
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On 23/12/2011 17:40, J G Miller wrote:
Since a Blu-Ray (tm) disc (phew spelt it correctly this time) "contains" considerably more data than a CD or DVD, does it takes a significantly longer time to press. No. It may take longer to write the master, but the per-disc stamping is just that - stamp. Layers cost time. Since time is money on a production line, the cost of pressing a Blu-Ray is therefore more than that of a CD or DVD. But not of the order of magnitude in price difference in the stores. Remember when DVDs were of the order of GBP 30, and now you can get DVDs for under GBP 5 in the supermarket? Given time, the cost of Blu-Ray disc releases will eventually come down to a more reasonable level. Andy
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