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Old January 19th 11, 10:06 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
David
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With Freeview boxes being available from £15 I'm wondering when, or if ever,
the prices of HD boxes will come down in price, for the little difference an
HD box would make I'm not going to pay over 6 times as much over an SD box.
It looks as if Freesat in SD or HD will never be competitive in price even
if a dish is available as I have.
Regards
David

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Old January 19th 11, 11:04 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Rick[_10_]
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"David" wrote in message
...
With Freeview boxes being available from £15 I'm wondering when, or if
ever, the prices of HD boxes will come down in price, for the little
difference an HD box would make I'm not going to pay over 6 times as much
over an SD box.
It looks as if Freesat in SD or HD will never be competitive in price even
if a dish is available as I have.
Regards
David


My guess is that the price of T2 chipsets will plummet when country's such
as South Africa and India (who have both adopted the DVB-T2 System) start
DSO.
I also I doubt that before very long you'll have much choice in the matter,
as IMV it's almost certain that all new TV's and STB's will automatically
incorporate the newer - backwards compatible - chipsets as standard anyway.


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Old January 19th 11, 03:18 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
R. Mark Clayton
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"David" wrote in message
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With Freeview boxes being available from £15 I'm wondering when, or if
ever, the prices of HD boxes will come down in price, for the little
difference an HD box would make I'm not going to pay over 6 times as much
over an SD box.


Won't be long - a few months probably, especially as other countries are
adopting the same standard (see other answer).

It looks as if Freesat in SD or HD will never be competitive in price even
if a dish is available as I have.


Maplin or ANO had FTA satellite receivers for under £50 years ago and there
are loads now.

As it happens I bought a LG 42LF7700 with built in Freesat HD for essential
nil premium against other sets. I just used a free output off the LNB. Not
much free contenet though given the $ky monopoly.

Regards
David




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Old January 20th 11, 05:46 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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In the short term prices of all consumer digital stuff will go up as you
won't have the choice to buy just sd stuff. However it may come down, but
not as cheaply as you are used to. In the current economic situation, a
realignment of standards of living will take place causing many things to be
just too expensive again.

Brian

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"David" wrote in message
...
With Freeview boxes being available from £15 I'm wondering when, or if
ever, the prices of HD boxes will come down in price, for the little
difference an HD box would make I'm not going to pay over 6 times as much
over an SD box.
It looks as if Freesat in SD or HD will never be competitive in price even
if a dish is available as I have.
Regards
David



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Old January 21st 11, 01:41 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
R. Mark Clayton
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Default HD boxes Freeview and Freesat


"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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In the short term prices of all consumer digital stuff will go up as you
won't have the choice to buy just sd stuff. However it may come down, but
not as cheaply as you are used to. In the current economic situation, a
realignment of standards of living will take place causing many things to
be just too expensive again.

Brian

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We are not talking about an item with a lot of material in (like a car,
although even these have fallen gradually in real terms over the last few
decades) but electronics, where prices usually fall monotonically and
quickly and often spec's increase at the same time: -

Scientific Calculators
1972 hundreds of pounds
1980's tens of pounds
now at the pound shop.

Mobile phones (essential functionality)
1985 £2k+
2000 £200
now £20

TV
1936 £1k B&W
1969 £1k colour
1996 £1k monitor standard
now £200 1080p

CD player
1985 £100s
1997 £10's
now £'s


I would expect the price of Freeview HD boxes to fall close to that of
Freeview boxes currently (~£20) over the next few months. Boxes will
probably start to incorporate a limited amount of flash memory or a slot for
recording programs.

Freesat HD receivers have more stuff in them, but even then I would expect
less than £50 by the end of the year.


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Old January 21st 11, 05:50 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
charles
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In article ,
R. Mark Clayton wrote:

We are not talking about an item with a lot of material in (like a car,
although even these have fallen gradually in real terms over the last few
decades) but electronics, where prices usually fall monotonically and
quickly and often spec's increase at the same time: -


Scientific Calculators
1972 hundreds of pounds
1980's tens of pounds
now at the pound shop.


Mobile phones (essential functionality)
1985 £2k+
2000 £200
now £20


TV
1936 £1k B&W
1969 £1k colour
1996 £1k monitor standard
now £200 1080p



no, this one is wrong 14" B&W sets have always been about £40.

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Old January 21st 11, 11:06 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default HD boxes Freeview and Freesat


"R. Mark Clayton" wrote in message
...

We are not talking about an item with a lot of material in (like a car,
although even these have fallen gradually in real terms over the last few
decades) but electronics, where prices usually fall monotonically and
quickly and often spec's increase at the same time: -

TV
1936 £1k B&W



1969 £1k colour


Twaddle, even in 1967 the world's first large screen, fully transistorised
production TV (and probably the most complicated, due to it being dual
standard) sold for 284 guineas.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11815200/PT19671_0001.jpg

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Old January 21st 11, 11:31 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
charles
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Default HD boxes Freeview and Freesat

In article ,
Rick wrote:

"R. Mark Clayton" wrote in message
...

We are not talking about an item with a lot of material in (like a car,
although even these have fallen gradually in real terms over the last
few decades) but electronics, where prices usually fall monotonically
and quickly and often spec's increase at the same time: -

TV
1936 £1k B&W



1969 £1k colour


Twaddle, even in 1967 the world's first large screen, fully
transistorised production TV (and probably the most complicated, due to
it being dual standard) sold for 284 guineas.


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11815200/PT19671_0001.jpg


when the first Ceefax set came on the market (mid 70s), Harrods were
selling it for £1100. Their chief electrical buyer told a colleague that
"if it's new we'll sell 100, whatever the price."

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Old January 21st 11, 11:44 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
davidrobinson@postmaster.co.uk
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Default HD boxes Freeview and Freesat

On Jan 19, 11:06*am, "David" wrote:
With Freeview boxes being available from £15 I'm wondering when, or if ever,
the prices of HD boxes will come down in price, for the little difference an
HD box would make I'm not going to pay over 6 times as much over an SD box.

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Old January 21st 11, 11:54 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
David
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wrote in message
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On Jan 19, 11:06 am, "David" wrote:
With Freeview boxes being available from £15 I'm wondering when, or if
ever,
the prices of HD boxes will come down in price, for the little difference
an
HD box would make I'm not going to pay over 6 times as much over an SD
box.


I don't think "boxes" will be commonly available for many more years.
At least not non-recording non-internet FTA ones. They'll be no TVs
left that need these. They'll be a legacy item, like RF modulators
now.


I think boxes will be around for a long in the HD area for the Joe Publics
that want it, most of whom will go for Sky.
Was looking at a large store display the other day and my recollection is
that they were all HD Ready, not one with a Freeview HD built in.
Regards
David

 




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