Because the concept of a Yorkshireman getting his 'local' news from
Manchester is the best thing that ever happened to television. ;-)



Well, that's the way it used to be.
Deja vu !

BBC 1 - Home Moss - left and right of the Pennines.
They even gave us all some strange Welsh programme at lunchtimes.

ITV was Granada (Manchester), - Emley Moor Ch10, Winter Hill Ch9,
before YTV was even thought of. And good ole Diddy David Hamilton on
ABC at weekends. Strange that northern ABC became London's Thames TV.

Mark Carver wrote:
On 18/01/2011 15:07, Bill Wright wrote:

I was under the impression that there's only one ITV1+1 on satellite.

No, there's six according to Lyngsat.

London, UTV, and Central W on 10891 H
Granada, Meridian S, and STV W on 10906 V

posted about this some days ago but no-one replied and now I can't find
my posting* (it was a comment in an existing thread about something
else). Are there several ITV1+1s?

* a coconut to anyone who can find it.

Ah, 'Dring Dring at 7.28pm' ?

I thought there was a YTV/Tyne Tees +1, but it seems not, the Granada
version must cover Gra,YTV,TTTV and Border, which explains why you get
it your side of the Pennines.

Oh well there you go then. I suppose I could have gone through all the
x00 FTA channels on 28E, or alternately told a Freesat box it was in
Basingstoke. But life's too short to peel olives.

I wonder how many people who get in from work in YTV land at sevenish
and idly flick through the channels will come to regard Granada's local
prog as 'theirs', and will vaguely wonder why the news seems to be
mostly about Liverpool and Manchester.

Bill

Just to clarify, here in YTV land we get YTV+1 on DTT and Granada+1 on
Freesat.

Bill

On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 01:21:05 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

Just to clarify, here in YTV land we get YTV+1 on DTT and Granada+1 on
Freesat.

Bill

When I put in the postcode (Northamptonish) I ended up with BBC East(W) or
something like that. Went on line and found a PC nearer Oxford and got BBC
Oxford (just S. of Northampton, there's no 'natural' region, but S comes up
to Banbury and seems bearer home than East Angular does) and ITV Meridian.

The ITV region does cover here but also goes to Kent! ITV Central South
would be better. Until this thread, I hadn't realised how few regions were
available.
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway

On 19/01/2011 08:52, PeterC wrote:

The ITV region does cover here but also goes to Kent! ITV Central South
would be better. Until this thread, I hadn't realised how few regions were
available.

ITV 1 Central South (let alone +1) no longer exists. It was merged with
Meridian North about 5 years ago, effectively combining Hannington with
Oxford to produce ITV Thames Valley. Ridge Hill that was also Cen S was
returned to Cen West Midlands, but an additional analogue allocation was
found and Ridge Hill carries ITV West to Cheltenham and Gloucester.
After DSO this year Ridge Hill will carry two ITV/4 muxes, one 'W Mids'
the other 'West'.

(Confused yet ?)

Then, about two years ago ITV Thames Valley was ditched, and Oxford and
Hannington combined into Meridian South, which despite having an opt out
for Kent and E Sussex is to all intents and purpose a huge useless
region stretching from Dorset to Kent, and the IOW to Banbury.

In fact, ITV regional news is on the skids really, I suspect as soon as
ITV manage to bribe Ofcom, it'll vanish completely in all areas.

--
Mark
Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply.

http://www.paras.org.uk/

On 19/01/2011 09:10, Mark Carver wrote:

In fact, ITV regional news is on the skids really, I suspect as soon as
ITV manage to bribe Ofcom, it'll vanish completely in all areas.

Well bugger me:-

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/broadcasting/news/a298946/hunt-itv-could-scrap-regional-news.html


--
Mark
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Mark Carver wrote:
On 19/01/2011 09:10, Mark Carver wrote:

In fact, ITV regional news is on the skids really, I suspect as soon as
ITV manage to bribe Ofcom, it'll vanish completely in all areas.

Well bugger me:-

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/broadcasting/news/a298946/hunt-itv-could-scrap-regional-news.html

Gypsy Rose Carver!

Bill

On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:10:50 +0000, Mark Carver
wrote:

On 19/01/2011 09:10, Mark Carver wrote:

In fact, ITV regional news is on the skids really, I suspect as soon as
ITV manage to bribe Ofcom, it'll vanish completely in all areas.

Well bugger me:-

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/broadcasting/news/a298946/hunt-itv-could-scrap-regional-news.html

Quoting from that:

"The origin goes back to the wrong decisions of the Conservative
government in 1955 to license ITV on a regional basis and not a local
basis," Hunt said.

Of course there might have been technical and cost reasons for the
so-called "wrong decisions".


--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

On 20/01/2011 01:14, Peter Duncanson wrote:
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/broadcasting/news/a298946/hunt-itv-could-scrap-regional-news.html

Quoting from that:

"The origin goes back to the wrong decisions of the Conservative
government in 1955 to license ITV on a regional basis and not a local
basis," Hunt said.

Of course there might have been technical and cost reasons for the
so-called "wrong decisions".

Well, from a technical aspect there would have been interesting
differences. The ITA built up their Band III network to more of less
mirror the BBC's Band I coverage. The UHF network, and co siting
arrangement between the Beeb and ITA that started in the 60s 'cherry
picked' those VHF sites to form its framework. I wonder how the BBC
would have responded to ITV's local structure, in terms of their output,
would they have developed local TV stations, rather than opt outs from
the national service ?
If ITV had been a local service, I suspect today we'd have a far messier
UHF network, most probably with more than one UHF aerial required to
receive all available services. Commercial radio was launched in the 70s
as a local rather than regional network, and consequently today radio
services are delivered from diverse sites in many cases.

--
Mark
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On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 09:10:08 +0000, Mark Carver wrote:

On 19/01/2011 08:52, PeterC wrote:

The ITV region does cover here but also goes to Kent! ITV Central South
would be better. Until this thread, I hadn't realised how few regions were
available.

ITV 1 Central South (let alone +1) no longer exists. It was merged with
Meridian North about 5 years ago, effectively combining Hannington with
Oxford to produce ITV Thames Valley. Ridge Hill that was also Cen S was
returned to Cen West Midlands, but an additional analogue allocation was
found and Ridge Hill carries ITV West to Cheltenham and Gloucester.
After DSO this year Ridge Hill will carry two ITV/4 muxes, one 'W Mids'
the other 'West'.

(Confused yet ?)

Yes, but that's not unusual.

Then, about two years ago ITV Thames Valley was ditched, and Oxford and
Hannington combined into Meridian South, which despite having an opt out
for Kent and E Sussex is to all intents and purpose a huge useless
region stretching from Dorset to Kent, and the IOW to Banbury.

In fact, ITV regional news is on the skids really, I suspect as soon as
ITV manage to bribe Ofcom, it'll vanish completely in all areas.

It's vestigial anyway.
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway