Years ago when I bought the analyser I use now most of the time I was
a bit worried about the way the carrying strap was fixed to the case.
It had those things like you get on dog leads, that just clip onto the
collar. I put loose cable ties alongside these clips, just in case one
of them ever did accidentally unclip itself. Last week I was climbing
a scaffold ladder with the analyser on my back when I felt something
brush against it. At the top I had a look and sure enough the clip had
been unclipped and the only thing saving the analyser from a 50ft fall
was the cable tie.

Bill

I thought these devices were similar to those used by rock climbers? I guess
one has to know when a device is certified to always perform as it should
and when its made to a price though.
I recall a Sony Luggable tape recorder which had kind of twist on clips for
support. It never did faile nbut it looked decidedly dodgy.

Brian

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Years ago when I bought the analyser I use now most of the time I was
a bit worried about the way the carrying strap was fixed to the case.
It had those things like you get on dog leads, that just clip onto the
collar. I put loose cable ties alongside these clips, just in case one
of them ever did accidentally unclip itself. Last week I was climbing
a scaffold ladder with the analyser on my back when I felt something
brush against it. At the top I had a look and sure enough the clip had
been unclipped and the only thing saving the analyser from a 50ft fall
was the cable tie.

Bill

Years ago when I bought the analyser I use now most of the time I was
a bit worried about the way the carrying strap was fixed to the case.
It had those things like you get on dog leads, that just clip onto the
collar. I put loose cable ties alongside these clips, just in case one
of them ever did accidentally unclip itself. Last week I was climbing
a scaffold ladder with the analyser on my back when I felt something
brush against it. At the top I had a look and sure enough the clip had
been unclipped and the only thing saving the analyser from a 50ft fall
was the cable tie.

Bill

Cheap option :-

Use 2 cable ties on each clip.

Expensive option :-

2 x carabiners ( e.g. Clog HMS Screwgate £10 each )
Will work for a lifetime and can be left in your will.

I should have realised this, but didn't until I read this wiki, that
these were originally designed to support firearms :-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carabiner

The Clog one above can be purchased online from :-

www.cotswoldoutdoor.com

Not sure of urls, but Ellis Brigham, Field+Trek, et al should sell
them.

There are Blacks at Meadowhall, and on the High Street in Sheffield,
but they are unlikely to stock carabiners as they do not specialise in
climbing equipment.

Alan P

Climbers (and cavers etc) use karabiners which are a little bit like the
clips Bill mentions. But some karabiners have screw gates (as Alan P
mentions). These screw across the gate (sic) to stop them opening by
accident. Climbers etc who want to grow old use ones with screw gates
when their safety depends on the gate staying shut.

A question for Bill: do all your cable ties stay flexible that long?
I'd always assumed (albeit for no good reason) they would fail after
flexing a lot especially in low temperatures.

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In article unhYn.75420$m87.46291@hurricane, Robin
scribeth thus
Climbers (and cavers etc) use karabiners which are a little bit like the
clips Bill mentions. But some karabiners have screw gates (as Alan P
mentions). These screw across the gate (sic) to stop them opening by
accident. Climbers etc who want to grow old use ones with screw gates
when their safety depends on the gate staying shut.

Damm right they do. We use them for climbing on masts and I've seen one
of the open gate ones come off where it was clipped on. Fortunately all
it was doing was holding some tools...


A question for Bill: do all your cable ties stay flexible that long?
I'd always assumed (albeit for no good reason) they would fail after
flexing a lot especially in low temperatures.


Some ties are better than others..
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On Jul 5, 10:09*am, alanp wrote:
Years ago when I bought the analyser I use now most of the time I was
a bit worried about the way the carrying strap was fixed to the case.
It had those things like you get on dog leads, that just clip onto the
collar. I put loose cable ties alongside these clips, just in case one
of them ever did accidentally unclip itself. Last week I was climbing
a scaffold ladder with the analyser on my back when I felt something
brush against it. At the top I had a look and sure enough the clip had
been unclipped and the only thing saving the analyser from a 50ft fall
was the cable tie.

Bill

Cheap option :-

* * Use 2 cable ties on each clip.

Expensive option :-

* * 2 x carabiners * *( e.g. Clog HMS Screwgate £10 each )
Will work for a lifetime and can be left in your will.

* I should have realised this, but didn't until I read this wiki, that
these were originally designed to support firearms :-

*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carabiner

The Clog one above can be purchased online from :-

*www.cotswoldoutdoor.com

Not sure of urls, but Ellis Brigham, Field+Trek, et al should sell
them.

There are Blacks at Meadowhall, and on the High Street in Sheffield,
but they are unlikely to stock carabiners as they do not specialise in
climbing equipment.

Alan P

Thanks for that info.

Bill

On Jul 5, 10:15*am, "Robin" wrote:
A question for Bill: do all your cable ties stay flexible that long?
I'd always assumed (albeit for no good reason) they would fail after
flexing a lot especially in low temperatures.

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These haven't been flexed because they've been left very loose. Black
ones seem to last OK in sunlight.

Bill

alanp wrote:

Cheap option :-

Use 2 cable ties on each clip.

Expensive option :-

2 x carabiners ( e.g. Clog HMS Screwgate £10 each )
Will work for a lifetime and can be left in your will.

/snip

You might want to look at "snap shackles" - they aren't any cheaper
(like anything to do with boats!) but come in smaller sizes. And they
won't care if you leave them out in the rain.

Andy

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writes
alanp wrote:

Cheap option :-

Use 2 cable ties on each clip.

Expensive option :-

2 x carabiners ( e.g. Clog HMS Screwgate £10 each )
Will work for a lifetime and can be left in your will.

/snip

You might want to look at "snap shackles" - they aren't any cheaper
(like anything to do with boats!) but come in smaller sizes. And they
won't care if you leave them out in the rain.

For a lightweight backup only position like this, keyring circles might
do just as well, 60p/10 from the right places:
http://cpc.farnell.com/_/25mm-split-...g-1/dp/SR00400
http://cpc.farnell.com/_/19mm-split-...ngs/dp/SR00399
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On Jul 5, 11:43*pm, fred wrote:
In article , Andy Champ
writes



alanp wrote:

Cheap option :-

* *Use 2 cable ties on each clip.

Expensive option :-

* *2 x carabiners * *( e.g. Clog HMS Screwgate 10 each )
Will work for a lifetime and can be left in your will.

/snip

You might want to look at "snap shackles" - they aren't any cheaper
(like anything to do with boats!) but come in smaller sizes. *And they
won't care if you leave them out in the rain.

For a lightweight backup only position like this, keyring circles might
do just as well, 60p/10 from the right places:http://cpc.farnell.com/_/25mm-split-...ngs/dp/SR00399
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