Has anyone seen this item. The RNIB, unsurprisingly are stocking it, but
give it their own number. It is also supposed to have speaking epg as well.
Its rather expensive for a basic box at over 80 quid and wondered if anyone
had seen it in the wild, so to speak. RBNIB are bundling it with a special
remote that is 'easy' to use apparently.

Who runs goodmans these days, I've lost track, is it anothe Argos badge?
I know Argos have been selling talking phones and other stuff of that ilk
of late, most of it aimed at 'senior citizens' apparently.

Brian

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Brian Gaff wrote:


Who runs goodmans these days, I've lost track, is it anothe Argos badge?
I know Argos have been selling talking phones and other stuff of that ilk
of late, most of it aimed at 'senior citizens' apparently.

Harvard.

http://www.harvardplc.com/brands_overview

Harvard used to own Bush and Alba too but they sold those brands to Argos.

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Brian Gaff wrote:

Who runs goodmans these days, I've lost track, is it anothe Argos
badge?
I know Argos have been selling talking phones and other stuff of
that ilk of late, most of it aimed at 'senior citizens' apparently.

Harvard.

http://www.harvardplc.com/brands_overview

Harvard used to own Bush and Alba too but they sold those brands to Argos.

I believe that Argos have also been branding no-name TVs with the
Hitachi brand.

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I've always wondered quite how you can just own a name and nothing much
else. I understand Grundig is another mobile name these days.

Brian

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Brian Gaff wrote:


Who runs goodmans these days, I've lost track, is it anothe Argos
badge?
I know Argos have been selling talking phones and other stuff of that
ilk of late, most of it aimed at 'senior citizens' apparently.

Harvard.

http://www.harvardplc.com/brands_overview

Harvard used to own Bush and Alba too but they sold those brands to Argos.

Really, I thought Hitachi still existed, though most of the major Japanese
names seem to be just brand engineers these days, sadly.

Brian

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Brian Gaff wrote:

Who runs goodmans these days, I've lost track, is it anothe Argos
badge?
I know Argos have been selling talking phones and other stuff of that
ilk of late, most of it aimed at 'senior citizens' apparently.

Harvard.

http://www.harvardplc.com/brands_overview

Harvard used to own Bush and Alba too but they sold those brands to Argos.

I believe that Argos have also been branding no-name TVs with the Hitachi
brand.

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Alan
news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

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Really, I thought Hitachi still existed, though most of the major Japanese
names seem to be just brand engineers these days, sadly.


I can't say about Hitachi for sure, but several of the big players will
licence out their brand. Panasonic, for example, don't make DECT phones.
But other DECT phone makers can licence the Panasonic brand and put it on
their own phones. Obviously there will be various safeguards and procedures
in place to protect the Panasonic brand values.

It's all very disappointing, because it's rapidly getting to the point where
the brand on any product says little or nothing about who made it, where it
was made, its quality, its performance, and so on.

SteveT

In message , Brian Gaff
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I've always wondered quite how you can just own a name and nothing much
else. I understand Grundig is another mobile name these days.


Yep, the brand names are to fool some of the people all of the time.
These days the same electronics will be sold under 4 brand names at
vastly different pricing because some of the public believe brand A to
be better than brand B.

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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
...


Really, I thought Hitachi still existed, though most of the major Japanese
names seem to be just brand engineers these days, sadly.


I can't say about Hitachi for sure, but several of the big players will
licence out their brand. Panasonic, for example, don't make DECT
phones. But other DECT phone makers can licence the Panasonic brand and
put it on their own phones. Obviously there will be various safeguards
and procedures in place to protect the Panasonic brand values.

It's all very disappointing, because it's rapidly getting to the point
where the brand on any product says little or nothing about who made
it, where it was made, its quality, its performance, and so on.

Interestingly, my new Linsar 16" TV responds to many of the functions of
the remote control for the old 14" Goodmans TV it is replacing (but,
again interestingly, not vice versa). Does this suggest that Linsar are
made by whoever make Goodmans?
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In message , Brian Gaff
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I've always wondered quite how you can just own a name and nothing much
else. I understand Grundig is another mobile name these days.


Yep, the brand names are to fool some of the people all of the time. These
days the same electronics will be sold under 4 brand names at vastly
different pricing because some of the public believe brand A to be better
than brand B.

--
Alan
news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk


All of you have missed what branding is. Branding is a trusted supplier. It
has never been about manufacturer.

The first brand was coop. It was about being able to trust the Milk was not
watered down. It was that the bread was not made with shoddy flour.

Waitrose don't make cows. Tesco don't make cows. It is trust to the quality
of supply.

When you buy a Rolls Royce the parts are made by lots of companies. VW own
it but it isn't a Volkswagen( or is it BMW)
A Lexus is made by Toyota

The brand means that the original VHS machines were almost all identical but
if you got a JVC the support was from JVC not Ferguson. Just like cow's
the results to you as a consumer are different. Not the starting product.

There seem also to be confusion as to if a panel TV has a Samsung display
then is it a Samsung. NO it is not. Unless Samsung sell it. ( All equipment
is made with components supplied from many manufacturers It is not brand
swapping)

Philips v2ooo machines were sold by B&O in the early days. Philips service
was good but B&O had a much better customer support and returns policy. You
could not send a B&O to Philips for repair.( the machines were bad) .

People can say. It should be good it is a ????. ( Insert name) It is crap it
is a ??????. and because of brand it is valid.

The only thing that is a problem is where companies have allowed shops to
use their name like Kenwood have allowed Curry's to sell microwaves in the
Kenwood name but the support is curry's not Kenwood. That is not the way it
should work. That is a con!!

Gary

On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 07:54:31 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote:
I understand Grundig is another mobile name these days.

Because Grundig went bankrupt. The asset strippers got the name and
it was sold on.

Incidentally you do know that although Roberts Radio is an Irish owned
company (Glen Dimplex is the parent), they no longer make radios themselves?