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"Jim" wrote in message
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On 29/01/2010 13:19, Jon Dye wrote:
Drilling into the window frame seems like the wrong way to do it
(especially if
there are several cables). What about going straight through an external
wall?
What do I need to consider other than drilling a hole and pushing the
cable
through? I assume I should put a loop on the outside to stop drips
running
into the house.

Try and avoid doing this to the brick if you have an hammer drill:

http://www.wrightsaerials.tv/roguesgallery/167.shtml

Or to be more precise, when you inevitably do this you should 'make good'
afterwards.

When I recently ran cables through the wall I put sleves on the cable
(inside and out) and bedded them in with mastic.
I got the sleeves from Screwfix.
I was copying the method used by NTL/Virgin cable installers which looked to
be lasting O.K.
I had to 'make good' the outside of the hole first with some mortar.

Yes, this is exactly what the Virgin guy did for my broadband.
Unfortunately, he also glued brick dust to my skirting board underneath with
his, 'invisible filler'


Still, the thought was there I guess.

Brian

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"Jim" wrote in message
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On 29/01/2010 13:19, Jon Dye wrote:
Drilling into the window frame seems like the wrong way to do it
(especially if
there are several cables). What about going straight through an
external wall?
What do I need to consider other than drilling a hole and pushing the
cable
through? I assume I should put a loop on the outside to stop drips
running
into the house.

Try and avoid doing this to the brick if you have an hammer drill:

http://www.wrightsaerials.tv/roguesgallery/167.shtml

Or to be more precise, when you inevitably do this you should 'make good'
afterwards.

When I recently ran cables through the wall I put sleves on the cable
(inside and out) and bedded them in with mastic.
I got the sleeves from Screwfix.
I was copying the method used by NTL/Virgin cable installers which looked
to be lasting O.K.
I had to 'make good' the outside of the hole first with some mortar.

On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:43:56 GMT, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

Yes, this is exactly what the Virgin guy did for my broadband.
Unfortunately, he also glued brick dust to my skirting board underneath with
his, 'invisible filler'

Virgin did a similar trick with a near neighbour of mine. Drilled
through the wall from outside without bothering to check inside. The
drill went through a plastic pipe feeding a radiator and dumped
gallons of water on the lounge carpet.

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On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:43:56 GMT, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

Yes, this is exactly what the Virgin guy did for my broadband.
Unfortunately, he also glued brick dust to my skirting board underneath
with
his, 'invisible filler'

Virgin did a similar trick with a near neighbour of mine. Drilled
through the wall from outside without bothering to check inside. The
drill went through a plastic pipe feeding a radiator and dumped
gallons of water on the lounge carpet.

NTL always used to go from inside out and shell the brick face off!

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On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:43:56 GMT, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

Yes, this is exactly what the Virgin guy did for my broadband.
Unfortunately, he also glued brick dust to my skirting board underneath
with
his, 'invisible filler'

Virgin did a similar trick with a near neighbour of mine. Drilled
through the wall from outside without bothering to check inside. The
drill went through a plastic pipe feeding a radiator and dumped
gallons of water on the lounge carpet.

Is there a way of detecting plastic water pipes within walls before drilling
through them?


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Jeff

On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 18:32:50 -0000, "Jeff Layman"
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On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:43:56 GMT, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

Yes, this is exactly what the Virgin guy did for my broadband.
Unfortunately, he also glued brick dust to my skirting board underneath
with
his, 'invisible filler'

Virgin did a similar trick with a near neighbour of mine. Drilled
through the wall from outside without bothering to check inside. The
drill went through a plastic pipe feeding a radiator and dumped
gallons of water on the lounge carpet.

Is there a way of detecting plastic water pipes within walls before drilling
through them?

Who said it was *within* the wall?

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On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 18:32:50 -0000, "Jeff Layman"
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On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:43:56 GMT, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

Yes, this is exactly what the Virgin guy did for my broadband.
Unfortunately, he also glued brick dust to my skirting board underneath
with
his, 'invisible filler'

Virgin did a similar trick with a near neighbour of mine. Drilled
through the wall from outside without bothering to check inside. The
drill went through a plastic pipe feeding a radiator and dumped
gallons of water on the lounge carpet.

Is there a way of detecting plastic water pipes within walls before
drilling
through them?

Who said it was *within* the wall?

I didn't - I asked a straightforward question.

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Jeff

On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 19:30:59 -0000, "Jeff Layman"
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On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 18:32:50 -0000, "Jeff Layman"
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wrote in message
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On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:43:56 GMT, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

Yes, this is exactly what the Virgin guy did for my broadband.
Unfortunately, he also glued brick dust to my skirting board underneath
with
his, 'invisible filler'

Virgin did a similar trick with a near neighbour of mine. Drilled
through the wall from outside without bothering to check inside. The
drill went through a plastic pipe feeding a radiator and dumped
gallons of water on the lounge carpet.

Is there a way of detecting plastic water pipes within walls before
drilling
through them?

Who said it was *within* the wall?

I didn't - I asked a straightforward question.

Have you tried asking in uk.rec.diy ?

Jeff Layman wrote:

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On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:43:56 GMT, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

Yes, this is exactly what the Virgin guy did for my broadband.
Unfortunately, he also glued brick dust to my skirting board underneath
with
his, 'invisible filler'

Virgin did a similar trick with a near neighbour of mine. Drilled
through the wall from outside without bothering to check inside. The
drill went through a plastic pipe feeding a radiator and dumped
gallons of water on the lounge carpet.

Is there a way of detecting plastic water pipes within walls before
drilling
through them?


Yes, they could have used their eyes.

--
Adrian

A couple of years ago I was called to fit an extra aerial point in a
kitchen for a customer with a new house on a small estate.
It was to be at normal low level socket height and was on a clear wall
with no radiators or anything else.
I drilled through to the outside with no problems and, as the wall was
dry-lined with plasterboard, I said I would fit a flush mounting
plasterboard box for neatness.
I marked out the square and carefully cut the plasterboard with a
stanley knife. when I pulled the loose piece out I found a microbore
heating pipe running diagonally across the space and I had missed it
by millimetres when I drilled the initial hole.

Also reminds me of the time when I was fitting ceiling speakers in a
country house. I carefully cut out the rectangle with a plasterboard
saw and lowered the piece of board complete with a full size dead rat,
perfectly framed!