For those interested, there are "Freeview Brand Guidelines" on the Freeview
website - and the EPG is not required for SD products, but is for HD
products.

Paul DS.

On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:48:40 -0000, "Paul D.Smith"
wrote:

For those interested, there are "Freeview Brand Guidelines" on the Freeview
website - and the EPG is not required for SD products, but is for HD
products.

I thought that might be the case, however, people have come to expect
the standard "Freeview" EPG to be available on any receiving device (TV,
STB, whatever) that it could be seen as misleading advertising for a
maker to fail to mention that a product does not support it.


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Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

I am just wondering if the whole story is that the likes of Panasonic
get paid by "Guide Plus" for using their guide as it carries
advertising and that "Guide Plus" can sell their advertising space if
they can go to the advertisers telling them that their guide WILL be
seen by all Panasonic owners ?

"Jim" wrote in message
o.uk...
widgitt wrote:
Personally I will NOT under any circomstances buy any equipment which
uses Guide plus, and would warn anybody that if they buy Panasonic
equipment they will be stuck with Guide plus, advertising, clutterd
pages and all.

The GuidePlus web-site says that BidTV is the digital channel that carries
the data on Freeview. According to DTG, this will not be on a Public
Service Mux post change-over, so users on PSB-only relays will not be able
to receive it.

Does anyone know different?

I was looking at a Panasonic DVD/HDD recorder to go with a relative's
Viera, but I'd want some assurance on this before buying a device that
would be useless. Would Panasonic accept a return as "not fit for purpose"
if the channel isn't available?

You'll have to download and study the user manual I'm afraid. I recently
bought a Panasonic DVDR and it's got the proper Freeview EPG, so not all
Panny products use Guide+.

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Max Demian

Paul D.Smith wrote:


"widgitt" wrote in message
...

Analogue has been switched off here and there is no Freeview EPG, only
Guide
Plus+-

Why no Freeview EPG ?

Because Panasonic TVs (and possibly whatever equipment the poster has) do
not permit the use of the standard Freeview EPG.

Paul DS.

I've got 2 Panasonic TVs here and both of them are using the Freeview EPG
and unlike a lot of other TVs they have a proper power switch on the front.

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Peter Duncanson wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:04:39 +0000, Jim wrote:

widgitt wrote:
Personally I will NOT under any circomstances buy any equipment which
uses Guide plus, and would warn anybody that if they buy Panasonic
equipment they will be stuck with Guide plus, advertising, clutterd
pages and all.
The GuidePlus web-site says that BidTV is the digital
channel that carries the data on Freeview. According
to DTG, this will not be on a Public Service Mux post
change-over, so users on PSB-only relays will not be
able to receive it.

Does anyone know different?

I was looking at a Panasonic DVD/HDD recorder to go
with a relative's Viera, but I'd want some assurance
on this before buying a device that would be useless.
Would Panasonic accept a return as "not fit for
purpose" if the channel isn't available?

I haven't looked into the legal side of this but I'm surprise that it is
possible to use the Freeview name for a box that does not offer the
normal Freeview EPG.


Certainly the Sony DVD/HDD recorders can work with either Guide+ or the
Freeview EPG.

If the OP wants to use the box to control a sky box, for example, Guide+ is
the only option.

I've got 2 Panasonic TVs here and both of them are using the Freeview EPG
and unlike a lot of other TVs they have a proper power switch on the front.


I suspect they are not the newest models, but I haven't really checked
each model to see if they are all Guide plus now.

I've got 2 Panasonic TVs here and both of them are using the Freeview EPG
and unlike a lot of other TVs they have a proper power switch on the
front.


I suspect they are not the newest models, but I haven't really checked
each model to see if they are all Guide plus now.

Don't waste your time. You can't tell until you read the manual. The
on-line specs. don't say!

Paul DS.