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newbie question re PVRs and DVD copy



 
 
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Old January 25th 10, 06:44 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Steve Thackery[_2_]
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"Mike Henry" wrote in message
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Not quite - the Freeview DVR will also be capable of making a new off-air
recording at the same time as playing back the previous recording which is
destined for the DVD (unless it's incredibly poor that is).


Yes, I should have said that.

SteveT



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Old January 25th 10, 06:45 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default newbie question re PVRs and DVD copy

And for that "perfect bitstream copy" (should that matter to you!) a
DTT PC card would be the ideal option. No faffing about with
extracting files from the PVR!


I think that's a very good option, provided you can run an aerial feed to
your PC.

SteveT

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Old January 25th 10, 09:20 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Mike Henry" wrote in message
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In , "Steve Thackery"
wrote:

"Rusty" wrote in message
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I will buy a cheap Freeview PVR.
Also my parents have a surplus old DVDR (without Freeview tuner), but
I can connect it to the PVR via Scart for the occasional DVD need; and
it serves as the DVD player !


The only thing to observe is that you will need to transfer the recorded
programme in real time, and while that is happening you can't use your
Freeview box or your DVD player/recorder for anything else.


Not quite - the Freeview DVR will also be capable of making a new off-air
recording at the same time as playing back the previous recording which is
destined for the DVD (unless it's incredibly poor that is).


Yes, but if your DVR is a Humax, you can't do that if the DVR starts
recording while you're doing the copying, as it puts up annoying (and
entirely unnecessary) messages on the screen. (You also have to remember to
set the volume to maximum as the Humax volume control affects the TV SCART
output.)

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Old January 26th 10, 03:19 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default newbie question re PVRs and DVD copy


"Steve Thackery" wrote in message
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And for that "perfect bitstream copy" (should that matter to you!) a
DTT PC card would be the ideal option. No faffing about with
extracting files from the PVR!


I think that's a very good option, provided you can run an aerial feed to
your PC.


And if you don't want to open up the PC or have run out of slots, a USB TV
on a stick can work very well - or at least it does here. The mpegs which
I have been recording with the Nova/Hauppage kit certainly look like perfect
copies.

Sadly, I can't get the files to play back properly on Windows Media Player,
though they are OK on my digital photo frame!

John L.


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Old January 26th 10, 04:54 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Roderick Stewart[_2_]
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Default newbie question re PVRs and DVD copy

In article , Steve Thackery wrote:
And for that "perfect bitstream copy" (should that matter to you!) a
DTT PC card would be the ideal option. No faffing about with
extracting files from the PVR!


I think that's a very good option, provided you can run an aerial feed to
your PC.


I'm in the process of collecting the parts for a media centre PC, having
realised that if done properly it could eventually replace several boxes by
combining their various functions in one. These would be-

Blu-ray player
DVD player
CD player
Radio tuner
Two TV disk recorders

It would also offer several facilities not available with my present
media/hi-fi setup, like the ability to look at photographs or watch You-tube
or TED clips on the TV instead of having to sit at my desk. Being a PC it
would of course be networked to the others, so any disk-burning could be
done elsewhere.

Rod.
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Old January 26th 10, 12:20 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Steve Thackery[_2_]
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Default newbie question re PVRs and DVD copy


"Roderick Stewart" wrote

Blu-ray player
DVD player
CD player
Radio tuner
Two TV disk recorders


Just a small point: as far as I can ascertain, Windows Media Center does NOT
support upscaling of normal DVDs when playing on an HD screen. I don't know
if this is true of other, competing, products.

Of course, you may not be bothered about upscaling anyway.

SteveT

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Old January 26th 10, 05:42 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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from "John Legon" contains these words:


"Steve Thackery" wrote in message
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And for that "perfect bitstream copy" (should that matter to you!) a
DTT PC card would be the ideal option. No faffing about with
extracting files from the PVR!


I think that's a very good option, provided you can run an aerial feed to
your PC.


And if you don't want to open up the PC or have run out of slots, a USB TV
on a stick can work very well - or at least it does here. The mpegs which
I have been recording with the Nova/Hauppage kit certainly look like perfect
copies.


The reason for that is that, afaict, _all_ DVB-T reciever chips are
based on the USB standard, even the ones used on PCI cards! The built in
USB host circuitry used may not present itself as a USB port but the
reciever chips, nevertheless, are outputting the data stream in a USB
compatable format.

Sadly, I can't get the files to play back properly on Windows Media Player,
though they are OK on my digital photo frame!


That's most likely because they're still in the TS format, not having
been converted to PS format on the fly (a very trivial processing task,
btw).

You might try using "MPEG_Streamclip.exe" to convert them and prove
that this is your problem. The alternative of installing a TS playback
codec whilst ok for letting you watch these unconverted recordings is a
less than satisfactory solution when you want to store the files for
later consumption as DVD standard files.

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Old January 26th 10, 05:46 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Roderick Stewart[_2_]
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Default newbie question re PVRs and DVD copy

In article , Steve Thackery wrote:
Just a small point: as far as I can ascertain, Windows Media Center does NOT
support upscaling of normal DVDs when playing on an HD screen. I don't know
if this is true of other, competing, products.

Of course, you may not be bothered about upscaling anyway.


At the moment I can quite happily watch DVDs fed to the screen from a
conventional player by RGB-SCART. I guess that means the screen itself does the
upscaling because its native resolution is higher than SDTV, or I'm not
bothered, or possibly both.

Mostly I'm looking forward to the convenience of having everything ion one box,
and not only that but a box I've built myself and can consequently adapt and
change as necessary.

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Old January 26th 10, 08:15 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
John Legon
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"Johnny B Good" wrote in message
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The message
from "John Legon" contains these words:
"Steve Thackery" wrote in message
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And for that "perfect bitstream copy" (should that matter to you!) a
DTT PC card would be the ideal option. No faffing about with
extracting files from the PVR!


And if you don't want to open up the PC or have run out of slots, a USB

TV
on a stick can work very well - or at least it does here. The mpegs

which
I have been recording with the Nova/Hauppage kit certainly look like

perfect
copies.


The reason for that is that, afaict, _all_ DVB-T reciever chips are
based on the USB standard, even the ones used on PCI cards! The built in
USB host circuitry used may not present itself as a USB port but the
reciever chips, nevertheless, are outputting the data stream in a USB
compatable format.


That's interesting - thanks for the explanation. I didn't expect much from
the USB TV stick but have been very impressed by the performance.

Sadly, I can't get the files to play back properly on Windows Media

Player,
though they are OK on my digital photo frame!


That's most likely because they're still in the TS format, not having
been converted to PS format on the fly (a very trivial processing task,
btw).

You might try using "MPEG_Streamclip.exe" to convert them and prove
that this is your problem. The alternative of installing a TS playback
codec whilst ok for letting you watch these unconverted recordings is a
less than satisfactory solution when you want to store the files for
later consumption as DVD standard files.


Many thanks for this information - I'll try to track down the program.

John L.


 




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