Is there anyway to update the software in the Nokia MediaMaster 9850T? It's
an older OnDigital box.

Thanks

Peter Geddes

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Rob Horton wrote:

Wouldn't it be great if nokia released the code under an open software
license.
It could then be developed further by the coding community. Even doing
simple stuff like changing the menu logos would be useful.
Wonder if it's written in c++.




Must be written in BBC Basic given the speed it runs at. I'd like it
put in
the public domain just for the opportunity to see how they managed to
make it so bad.

Pete.

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Rob Horton wrote:

Wouldn't it be great if nokia released the code under an open software
license.
It could then be developed further by the coding community. Even doing
simple stuff like changing the menu logos would be useful.
Wonder if it's written in c++.




Must be written in BBC Basic given the speed it runs at.

If that was the case then surely they could do teletext in Mode 7 graphics?
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Rob Horton wrote:



Wouldn't it be great if nokia released the code under an open software
license.
It could then be developed further by the coding community. Even doing
simple stuff like changing the menu logos would be useful.
Wonder if it's written in c++.






Must be written in BBC Basic given the speed it runs at.



If that was the case then surely they could do teletext in Mode 7 graphics?


Actually that's not funny - cos you're right, in the mid 80s a 2MHz 6502
in a Beeb could
give snappy teletext performance (in Mode 7); given Moore's law, by
~2000 digital teletext
should have been blindingly fast.

Pete.

Peter Bunclark wrote:
Actually that's not funny - cos you're right, in the mid 80s a 2MHz 6502
in a Beeb could
give snappy teletext performance (in Mode 7); given Moore's law, by
~2000 digital teletext
should have been blindingly fast.

Pete.


Moores law actually states that transistor density doubles every year
(or so). The response to this is that computer programmers become twice
as lazy every year so the speed of software remains constant.

A CS student in my flat was told by one of his lecturers that "it
doesn't matter what you program your projects in, as computers can
complete any job you're likely to do instantly," in response to the
question "Why are you teaching us java? It's too slow." (Anecdotal, I
have no proof of this.)

Needless to say he taught himself C++ and x86 assembly in his own time.

Dave Hill wrote:

: ISTR that the code "belongs" to Canal+. So Nokia can't release it anyway.

Yes - all the old OnDigital/ITV Digital code was supplied by Canal+ and,
AFAIR, manufacturers just added the STB specific interface(s).

The only worthwhile? upgrade they ever made (and they were forced to do this
by their ITC agreement) was adding Digital Teletext to the earlier STBs.
All the later "upgrades" seemed to be adding more and more code which
attempted to verify that the smartcard was a totally legal one. They never
even changed the graphics in the menus from OnDigital to ITV Digital!

Peter Geddes wrote:
Is there anyway to update the software in the Nokia MediaMaster 9850T? It's
an older OnDigital box.

Thanks

Peter Geddes


No, not over the air. Have you asked Nokia to see if it's possible, by
sending the box back to them?


Clem

Clem Dye wrote:
: No, not over the air. Have you asked Nokia to see if it's possible, by
: sending the box back to them?

There would be little point! After the software update to include (very slow)
Digital teletext *all* updates to this STB seemed to just add anti-piracy
smartcard checking code (which is no longer needed). They never even changed
the menus titles!