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How will it happen? Anologue off, digital on?



 
 
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Old October 11th 06, 02:35 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Peter
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On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 13:56:15 +0100, Martin Jay
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In message , David B.
writes
That sounds about right John. As I understand it, the plan for the
Whitehaven area (*First to be Forced*) is that BBC2 analogue will be
switched off and replaced by a digital multiplex a full month before the
final switchover date.


What's the plan for BBC Two in Wales, where analogue and digital show
different programming in the evening?


Somebody posted in this ng a little while ago that he thought htat
BBC2 Wales and BBC2W would both be transmitted post switch off.

Personally I doubt that - my worry is that BBC2W will remain as a
vehicle for the BBC Taffia in Cardiff and Wales will lose mainstream
BBC2 programming.
Of course thos people with Sky will still be able to get BBC2 and be
able to ignore the *******ised BBC2W
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Old October 11th 06, 02:53 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
David B.
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"Peter" wrote in message
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[snip]
my worry is that BBC2W will remain as a
vehicle for the BBC Taffia in Cardiff and Wales will lose mainstream
BBC2 programming.
Of course thos people with Sky will still be able to get BBC2 and be
able to ignore the *******ised BBC2W


I wouldn't worry too much. Given that terrestrial broadcasting can never do
much more than pay lip-service to HDTV, we'll all be wanting satellite
pretty soon anyway. The big question is- can the terrestrial broadcasters
get their extra-terrestrial act together quickly enough to stop a News
International walkover? B*k*B are really going to town on recruiting here in
Cumbria, and right now DigitalUK can't, in all honesty, recommend any other
satellite solution in their equally voluminous publicity about the
switchover.

David B.
At least it's stopped raining.


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Old October 11th 06, 02:54 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"David" wrote in message
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There is a great thread going on digital high power.
But I'm wondering how it will happen.

Take Emley Moor for an example.
Present high power anologue, possible reduction in power nearer we get to
switch off in order to make the equipment last untill switch off day.
Present low power digital transmitters.
Future new high power equipment supplied, does it get tested once
installed? ( would present anologue/digital go off for these tests.)
At say midnight on the appointed day, the anolgue/digital go off and the
new digital go on?


I think it will be staged so BBC Two and C4 analogue disappear some
weeks/months beforehand to clear the way for the high powered PSB muxes.


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Old October 11th 06, 02:57 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Martin Jay" wrote in message
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In message , David B.
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That sounds about right John. As I understand it, the plan for the
Whitehaven area (*First to be Forced*) is that BBC2 analogue will be
switched off and replaced by a digital multiplex a full month before the
final switchover date.


What's the plan for BBC Two in Wales, where analogue and digital show
different programming in the evening?


Existing analogue channels will simply display idents of sheep endless
wondering around until people finally get the message.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oxd0P5FubaM


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Old October 11th 06, 03:40 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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David wrote:
Yes I've failed to understand the situation that some transmitters will not
have the full 6 muxs thus as you say giveing some people second class
service.
I myself if I were on a relay with only 3 or 4 muxes would be most upset,
bet they do not get a reduction in liecence fee.


You'll get all the BBC channels.

If the government wants to sell off the frequencies which could have
been used to give you a "full" service from the commercial networks,
take it up with them.

(Though I doubt whether all the commercial muxes would have brought
their service to all relay txs, even if allowed to do so, unless forced
to do so).

Cheers,
David.

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Old October 11th 06, 03:42 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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wrote in message
oups.com...
David wrote:
Yes I've failed to understand the situation that some transmitters will
not
have the full 6 muxs thus as you say giveing some people second class
service.
I myself if I were on a relay with only 3 or 4 muxes would be most upset,
bet they do not get a reduction in liecence fee.


You'll get all the BBC channels.

If the government wants to sell off the frequencies which could have
been used to give you a "full" service from the commercial networks,
take it up with them.

(Though I doubt whether all the commercial muxes would have brought
their service to all relay txs, even if allowed to do so, unless forced
to do so).


Are you on the Shefield relay,seem to think you have posted previously on
that.

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David

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Old October 11th 06, 04:43 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"David" wrote in message
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"David B." wrote in message
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. Also, behind-the-scenes tussles
are ongoing to decide whether some of the specialist Freeview channels
(e.g.
FilmFour) will be provided on our transmitter at all (*Second-class
Service?*).


Yes I've failed to understand the situation that some transmitters will
not have the full 6 muxs thus as you say giveing some people second class
service.
I myself if I were on a relay with only 3 or 4 muxes would be most upset,
bet they do not get a reduction in liecence fee.


I think, I right is saying that they want to use the existing transmitter
power amplifiers thus reduce costs.


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Old October 11th 06, 05:09 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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David wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...


You'll get all the BBC channels.

If the government wants to sell off the frequencies which could have
been used to give you a "full" service from the commercial networks,
take it up with them.

(Though I doubt whether all the commercial muxes would have brought
their service to all relay txs, even if allowed to do so, unless forced
to do so).


Are you on the Shefield relay,seem to think you have posted previously on
that.


No - Bedfordshire (Sandy Heath - couldn't care less about switch over
for myself, though concerned for some of my family elsewhere!).

Cheers,
David.

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Old October 11th 06, 05:32 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Piggy wrote:

I think, I right is saying that they want to use the existing transmitter
power amplifiers thus reduce costs.



They want to, but AIUI the performance is not good enough for COFDM
transmission, so new kit will be used throughout.

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Old October 11th 06, 05:36 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default How will it happen? Anologue off, digital on?

Virgils Ghost wrote:
"Martin Jay" wrote in message
...
In message , David B.
writes
That sounds about right John. As I understand it, the plan for the
Whitehaven area (*First to be Forced*) is that BBC2 analogue will be
switched off and replaced by a digital multiplex a full month before the
final switchover date.

What's the plan for BBC Two in Wales, where analogue and digital show
different programming in the evening?


Existing analogue channels will simply display idents of sheep endless
wondering around until people finally get the message.


Not tied to lamp posts then?
 




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